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Re: If you want to leave MB1, do it already

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Swagudelo is not online. Swagudelo
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20 Jul 2014 08:07 PM
"'Test it on Brits:' Snowden says GCHQ even worse than NSA"
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Islesllah is not online. Islesllah
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20 Jul 2014 08:10 PM
Who said I was going to move to Britain?

Realistically I can't move anyway, I'm just saying that the US isn't as great of a nation as you guys all seem to think.
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Swagudelo is not online. Swagudelo
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20 Jul 2014 08:11 PM
It's literally the best country in the world you communist
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Islesllah is not online. Islesllah
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20 Jul 2014 08:16 PM
We're pretty stable financially, but the concept of freedom and liberty that people here are so high on is BS and our government isn't really even a democracy (we're literally a republic, we vote for a group of people to represent us and make laws, democracy would be citizens voting on proposed laws)
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Swagudelo is not online. Swagudelo
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20 Jul 2014 08:17 PM
Citizens do vote on proposed laws, please don't talk about the US government if you don't know anything about it
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Islesllah is not online. Islesllah
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20 Jul 2014 08:19 PM
We vote for representatives in Congress for bills that affect the nation.
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Swagudelo is not online. Swagudelo
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20 Jul 2014 08:23 PM
There's a difference between judicial, executive, and legislative branches which you should probably check up on
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Islesllah is not online. Islesllah
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20 Jul 2014 08:26 PM
We vote in members of legislature, we're not a democracy if we have representatives that decide bills.
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Swagudelo is not online. Swagudelo
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20 Jul 2014 08:31 PM
If we let all qualified citizens vote on Bills we'd have people like you voting and that's where the country loses it's title as the greatest in the world
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SenhorFroob is not online. SenhorFroob
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20 Jul 2014 08:32 PM
Canada> USA. we have free health care
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Islesllah is not online. Islesllah
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20 Jul 2014 08:37 PM
I'm not even qualified to vote [yet], so IDK what you're getting at.

And I don't think you understand what I'm proving, I think a republic legislature works fairly well (although now corporations have a big influence, but there's nothing that can be done about that so I can't really complain), I'm just saying we're a republic and not a direct democracy and most people don't realize that. Hell, ask most people and a good majority of them think that the president is solely in control of the nation.
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Swagudelo is not online. Swagudelo
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20 Jul 2014 08:42 PM
Nobody is a direct democracy
And there's nothing wrong with the current government
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Islesllah is not online. Islesllah
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20 Jul 2014 08:48 PM
The problem is we brand ourselves as a democracy, I realize there essentialy is no such thing.

I'm fine with the government itself, just think people need to realize how everything actually works, so they don't vote so blindly.

The things I do have problems with though are the ethics in the over-involvement into foreign affairs of our military and the surveillance system being run by the NSA in a "free" society.
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20 Jul 2014 08:49 PM
nerds
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Islesllah is not online. Islesllah
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20 Jul 2014 08:49 PM
over-involvement of foreign affairs by our military*
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Islesllah is not online. Islesllah
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20 Jul 2014 08:53 PM
I.E. giving 10 years, thousands of American lives, and billions of dollars in financial aid to a new government in Iraq, which has been doing great recently as we're all hearing about.
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