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Re: VS: Interest in not losing The BEE war

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Soybeen is online. Soybeen
Joined: 17 Feb 2010
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20 Jul 2014 04:38 PM
It's not until recently that a thread was created, taking a hit at The BEE's main fort, The Chasm, where I decided to make a point showing that VS is not as burdened, but rather the source of the postponement and prolonging of the continuation of the war.

Upon VS declaring war on The BEE, both sides were indisputably fond of the activity it would bring, which means it is nothing short of strange that until this point, the VS have been abiding by a 1 raid monthly policy.

Through the fiercest negotiations on behalf of The BEE with generally incompetent VS "Heads of War", the war is scheduled to end sometime in 2016.
Yes, 2016.

The most recent Head of War, as a Delegate in The BEE, made an effort to clear The BEE shout whenever we attempted to call a group event, and spammed out the wall in numerous instances, as well as messaging me, bashing my authority as leader of The BEE.
In an instance where the VS wanted to replace the names of the old Heads of War with the new Heads of War in the war terms document, the new head of war, in all his esteem, attempted to remove the Weekend Raids Clause without mentioning it.

Oops, that's embarrassing.

Only negotiations between Lilly and myself manage to keep the war moving as best as possible, but still not fluid smooth. The promise of raids is few and far between, and only this most recent raid at The Chasm has been fulfilled after weeks of accepting raid requests, only to be left hanging.

The debates taking place between the BEE and the VS were always messy, through little or no fault of The BEE. Pointless disputes were created when new terms were suggested, and ideas to quicken the war were shot down by the VS hicom, yet their suggestions to further imbalance The Chasm in favor of VS were somehow still granted merit.

The BEE has made a point of increasing the benefits of VS at The Chasm, such as removing focal turrets, removing division-specific weaponry, and giving the VS a forward spawn, roughly 150 linear studs closer to the flag than that of our own.

After the second loss, and third loss, VS suggested a frankly transparent proposal to have both The BEE and VS "back out of the war" because they felt it was not leading anywhere, and was taking too long. In numerous discussions where The BEE attempted to suggest policies that would increase the raid count monthly, the VS declined, seeking to elongate the war.

I'm getting mixed signals at this point, but it doesn't take much to realize the VS are likely having doubts about the outcome.

As the leader of The BEE, I would rather have waged war with any other group on ROBLOX, and this can be said with utmost confidence. There has been no clan sneakier in their diplomatic relations and document relations, nor one that has given more discompliance in the war talks. I have also never met a group that complained so much during raiding sessions, implying that we use unfair weaponry, and accusations of the sort.

The BEE is a proud clan, and we are a great clan. We will not have this superclan attempt to trash our image to the rest of the ROBLOX community. Frankly, there's a reason The BEE is winning this war so far, and it is not through imbalance, but rather through the compliance of the tight-knit community I have nurtured since July 16th, 2010, and the skill of the soldiers that show their enormous dedication daily.

The war will end one way or another, and when it does, you can rest assured it was through no sportsmanship of the VS that kept it alive.

tl;dr:
The VS have been prolonging the war, and refusing to raid more than once per month. The VS hicom has been trying to stealthily remove rules in the War Terms, despite the benefits we give them at The Chasm. The VS are discompliant, and the VS will not make The BEE out to be a bad clan, as we are one with great prestige, and there is none to blame but the VS for the poor war conditions.

Cheers,
-- Soybeen
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StarkIV is not online. StarkIV
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20 Jul 2014 04:40 PM
super support cause ily soy
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PandaIV is not online. PandaIV
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20 Jul 2014 04:41 PM
100 % Support.
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destructionmuffin is not online. destructionmuffin
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20 Jul 2014 04:42 PM
almost 3 years together yay. But that last raid was pretty fun
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HMAX12 is not online. HMAX12
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20 Jul 2014 04:42 PM
/support
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destructionmuffin is not online. destructionmuffin
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20 Jul 2014 04:43 PM
:support soybeen
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TheUnknownUno is not online. TheUnknownUno
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20 Jul 2014 04:44 PM
support
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PandaIV is not online. PandaIV
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20 Jul 2014 04:44 PM
//give Soybeen Support
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jjwillis711 is not online. jjwillis711
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20 Jul 2014 04:47 PM
I dislike the comunnity of VS.
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ReversalX is not online. ReversalX
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20 Jul 2014 04:49 PM
100% Support
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needlessdeadrock is not online. needlessdeadrock
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20 Jul 2014 04:49 PM
If VS backs down they are cowards!
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Falq is not online. Falq
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20 Jul 2014 04:50 PM
BEE is garbage, leave.
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imnotaguestimagirl is not online. imnotaguestimagirl
Joined: 21 Nov 2010
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20 Jul 2014 04:50 PM
you forgot to mention changing server sizes, turrets, and the Modified SG Assault Rifle!!!
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simcool99 is not online. simcool99
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20 Jul 2014 04:50 PM
I support
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PLANKTON5572 is not online. PLANKTON5572
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20 Jul 2014 04:51 PM
I think we should call off the war, not much of our loyal and awesome B.E.E members are going to stay until 2016, I might but I know that ComradeNill for example is in high school. And you yourself Soybeen are going into college in two years if I'm correct, your sixteen and have more important things to do. I am not telling you that you shouldn't play roblox but you should not think that this long war will be continued in such a busy time. I think the hicom in VS should adjust the war terms so that it's at least 4 raids a month and he shouldn't be that (mind my manners) stupid to forget the rules that he himself wrote. -Plankton level 2 Scout (guy5572 Assasin)
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destructionmuffin is not online. destructionmuffin
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20 Jul 2014 04:51 PM
The server sizes was a mistake but the modded AR is a division gun. Not like other groups DON'T have this.
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StarkIV is not online. StarkIV
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20 Jul 2014 04:51 PM
@falq get out of this thread
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seanybadboy13 is not online. seanybadboy13
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20 Jul 2014 04:53 PM
Support given.
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Soybeen is online. Soybeen
Joined: 17 Feb 2010
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20 Jul 2014 04:53 PM
@Imnot:
As per the war terms:
- Server size is interchangeable without consent.
- All division guns and teleporters no longer exist.
- All turrets have been either removed prior or during raids, or made unusable.
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BloodDrops is not online. BloodDrops
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20 Jul 2014 04:54 PM
4k grats =)
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Dillsion1 is not online. Dillsion1
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20 Jul 2014 04:54 PM
"I'm getting mixed signals at this point, but it doesn't take much to realize the VS are likely having doubts about the outcome."

It has nothing to do with the outcome, we just want to raid a base that isn't laggy.

But when you constantly make changes such as server size or other advances to making it more powered to the BEE (numerous spawns for BEE including ones NEAR the terminal etc.)

The server size, I was told, is going down from 50 to a lower amount, unspecified at this point.

Furthermore; VS wish to pursue other wars that are more interesting than the one that is ongoing at this point. We feel it's quite boring and tedious when the base constantly lags and the fact that the base is slightly unfair with the divisional guns, which are being removed.

>slightly

I never said it's: "100% unfair, gg no re autowin"

And honestly, the war terms ARE bad.

The sheer fact that the ex Head of war agreed to only raiding the chasm, and The Bee NOT raiding Vulcan, is quite ludacris.

A war is a two way street.

Make it so.

[Vortex Security; Colonel | Co Head of Warfare]
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crazy11745 is not online. crazy11745
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20 Jul 2014 04:54 PM
nice
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imnotaguestimagirl is not online. imnotaguestimagirl
Joined: 21 Nov 2010
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20 Jul 2014 04:54 PM
@Soy

butttttt the war terms ALSO state that updates that affect the playability of the chasm need to be discussed

I think all 40-something people at that raid can testify that 50 players really affected the playability
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PandaIV is not online. PandaIV
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20 Jul 2014 04:56 PM
numerous spawns for the bee? they are all CPs, if you touch em, your team can spawn there also lol
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EmperorJD is not online. EmperorJD
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20 Jul 2014 04:57 PM
Hi kids.
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