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Re: Make stolen content reportable.

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robocu3 is not online. robocu3
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17 Jul 2014 08:47 PM
I know this has been suggested before, there's now what it hasn't, and I know moderation is already a hassle as is, but ROBLOX is based around inspiring creativity. That ability is crushed when other people's work is stolen without permission and credit isn't even given. I'm not the only one who feels this way, right?
Retexturing shirts is one thing, but stealing them? This suggestion is leaning towards a change in the terms of service.
To have any stolen content be labeled as reportable with proof supplied.
-=Robo=-
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secretassassin3 is not online. secretassassin3
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17 Jul 2014 09:02 PM
It would be hard to prove anything. Maybe they didn't see your item or you actually stole their idea, but you just published first.

Good idea but it won't happen.
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H3llXFIRE is not online. H3llXFIRE
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17 Jul 2014 09:10 PM
support
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AccessibleMrStealth is not online. AccessibleMrStealth
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17 Jul 2014 09:26 PM
It would be easier if they hid the shirt templates.
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darkcreeper1 is not online. darkcreeper1
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17 Jul 2014 11:10 PM
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nobbers12345 is not online. nobbers12345
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17 Jul 2014 11:37 PM
In all honesty, it's not going to happen.
Going after people who allegedly posted something that is yours requires work.
For all we know, you could have stolen it and posted it first.

Going after clothing and places requires a full on court case for someone to objectively view any evidence, and it's not worth their time since you are really losing nothing.

Braghenaflarbenabeg.
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Manchenzo is not online. Manchenzo
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17 Jul 2014 11:39 PM
This has happened to me before, so I support 100%.

I'll just give a short story of what happened, I attempted to make a map for death run (yeah it wasn't that good), I left it on sale until Wsly took it (which I regret now because now he probably thinks i'm terrible at making maps >_>), after Wsly took the map I put it off sale, and of course this one guy steals it and makes it as his own. He made my model free to take and named it "Forrest Map" (it's funny because the copier doesn't know how to spell).
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Manchenzo is not online. Manchenzo
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17 Jul 2014 11:46 PM
If this really was a feature though, on your report of the player who stole your item, you should have to put the evidence.

If a false stolen content report was made, then you would get a warning or a ban.


V what I think it'd look like V
______________
Who do you think is breaking the rules: (username)
What rules did they break: (Stolen Content)
Comment: (Blah blah blah this one guy stole my model and claims it as his own)
Evidence: (Random link) (Another random link)
______________
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logan999999999999 is not online. logan999999999999
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18 Jul 2014 12:00 AM
REALLY REALLY BAD IDEA.

1 It's hard to prove you stole it.

2 People might have just scripted it the same.

3 Once it is free it's all free game.

4 If it's uncopylocked people have more then a right to steal it.

5 Roblox should not waste their time on such a thing hackers are a bigger problem.

6 Far too many people will just say they stole it just to get the player banned.

NO SUPPORT EVER.
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strangeawsomenico3 is not online. strangeawsomenico3
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18 Jul 2014 12:03 AM
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Manchenzo is not online. Manchenzo
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18 Jul 2014 12:16 AM
"REALLY REALLY BAD IDEA."
Hmm, let's see your '6' reasons you listed for this.

"1 It's hard to prove you stole it."

It's not that hard, all you would have to do is give the moderators the link of your place, and the link of their place. And the moderators could use the revert tool to see which place was created first.

"2 People might have just scripted it the same."
It would be almost impossible for people to script that whole entire game with the exact same coding, if both of the games had the same lobby, same maps, same everything- that's what would be considered a copy.

"3 Once it is free it's all free game."
I'll post my reply to this on reason number '4' since this is the same a number '4'.

"4 If it's uncopylocked people have more then a right to steal it."
I agree to this, uncopylocking your own place is your fault as it was your own decision to do so. This is the first time you have been reasonable.


"5 Roblox should not waste their time on such a thing hackers are a bigger problem."

I see this exact same excuse for everything, someone posts a thread about adding a new feature; there's always that one guy who says "BUT ROBLOX SHOULD FOCUS ON THE HACKERS". I'm too lazy to reply to this reason.

"6 Far too many people will just say they stole it just to get the player banned."

Once again, moderators could look use the "revert tool" to see which item was created first, the true stealer is the one that gets warned or banned.
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katio454 is not online. katio454
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18 Jul 2014 12:19 AM
Content reporter: Destroyer of Jaredvaldez
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nachosandchez is not online. nachosandchez
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18 Jul 2014 12:22 AM
Big fat Support here.
Piracy is enough of a problem in ROBLOX.
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nobbers12345 is not online. nobbers12345
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18 Jul 2014 12:24 AM
""6 Far too many people will just say they stole it just to get the player banned."

Once again, moderators could look use the "revert tool" to see which item was created first, the true stealer is the one that gets warned or banned."

There is a possibility that the person who uploaded it first actually stole it.

Case and point, a you invite to your house to look at his game. You have to go to the bathroom after you finish it.

Your friend quickly downloads it to a flash drive that he brought with him and uploads it on his account while he is in the bathroom.


Braghenaflarbenabeg.
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logan999999999999 is not online. logan999999999999
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18 Jul 2014 12:28 AM
^ SPY HE MUST BE A UNDERCOVER MODERATOR
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Manchenzo is not online. Manchenzo
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18 Jul 2014 12:28 AM
Ugh, it bugs me having to say this every time someone does this. If I ever get the chance, i'll make a rant on this on YouTube.

@darkcreeper1 & strangeawsomenico3

Please keep your copy & pasted supports' out of the forums, it is totally & absolutely unnecessary to fill up 3-20 lines of this thread with nothing but a copy & pasted support symbol.

1. Doing this won't make you and cooler.
2. A gigantic support symbol isn't a valid reason of why you support.
3. This fills up multiple lines on the thread you have posted on.
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Manchenzo is not online. Manchenzo
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18 Jul 2014 12:35 AM

"Your friend quickly downloads it to a flash drive that he brought with him and uploads it on his account while he is in the bathroom."

Be more specific please, are you saying this would happen in game where your friend from irl downloads it on a flashdrive and uploads this, or would this happen virtually while in game?
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nobbers12345 is not online. nobbers12345
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18 Jul 2014 12:36 AM
Irl.

Braghenaflarbenabeg.
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Manchenzo is not online. Manchenzo
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18 Jul 2014 12:40 AM
Ignore what I just said there, I was being stupid and didn't read the second line of your reply.

This is a bizarre example of what could happen. Why would someone that you invited to your house try to steal your model from ROBLOX in game and try to get you banned. How would they even know you played ROBLOX, if they were your friend in real life well then, they're terrible friends.
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Manchenzo is not online. Manchenzo
Joined: 27 Jan 2010
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18 Jul 2014 12:42 AM
I guess what your saying there is correct, people could actually do this. Very rarely it would happen though, and also the person who did it to you- well, you wouldn't wanna have them as a friend.
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