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Plexahedron is not online. Plexahedron
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07 Jul 2014 04:46 PM
Have to come from nothing?
I mean if you go back far enough you can't just say that everything came from something, because "somethings" have to come from something else and so on.
If I am correct about this statement, how is this possible?
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Anikinis is not online. Anikinis
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07 Jul 2014 04:57 PM
that nothing was something.
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anotheytraitii is not online. anotheytraitii
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07 Jul 2014 04:58 PM
According to quantum mechanics, the nothing was... something, in a sense, but still nothing.
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che46 is not online. che46
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07 Jul 2014 05:08 PM
people say god created the world, what would you say to them?
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JayyxC is not online. JayyxC
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07 Jul 2014 05:19 PM
I'd say they have all there work ahead of them before they could claim such a thing.
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0Z0NE is not online. 0Z0NE
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07 Jul 2014 05:21 PM
"According to quantum mechanics, the nothing was... something, in a sense, but still nothing."

According to the knowledge you base entirely on your lack of understanding of wikipedia pages, the nothing was... something, in a sense, but still nothing.

FTFY
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anotheytraitii is not online. anotheytraitii
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07 Jul 2014 05:24 PM
No, I used a different source when learning about that.
Also Wikipedia is accurate. It's only inaccurate (and when it is, it's obvious) when someone edits it to be wrong. Which is fixed in ten minutes of it happening. Then the vandal is banned from editing Wikipedia. So chances are I didn't miraculously look at Wikipedia pages just a minute after they were edited to be wrong.
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0Z0NE is not online. 0Z0NE
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07 Jul 2014 05:27 PM
No, it is mostly conjecture based on actual information. You base your entire knowledge of something off of a wikipedia page, which is full of false information because these pages are typically written by people who are not qualified to speak on the topic. Also, "lack of understanding" is a big part of it. Countless articles you have used as sources have not only not supported your argument, but even contradicted it. The solution? Pay attention in school!
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anotheytraitii is not online. anotheytraitii
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07 Jul 2014 05:30 PM
No, it was not off Wikipedia. I was reading on it on that nbm nhi whatever gov site.
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0Z0NE is not online. 0Z0NE
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07 Jul 2014 05:31 PM
Yeah, I doubt that's true.
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anotheytraitii is not online. anotheytraitii
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07 Jul 2014 05:33 PM
It was true. I use those a lot.
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0Z0NE is not online. 0Z0NE
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07 Jul 2014 05:34 PM
Yeah, that's probably a lie.
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anotheytraitii is not online. anotheytraitii
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07 Jul 2014 05:35 PM
You lied. You said I used Wikipedia. How would you know? Because I didn't.
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0Z0NE is not online. 0Z0NE
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07 Jul 2014 05:42 PM
You are a chronic/compulsive liar. It's likely you are simply lying.
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anotheytraitii is not online. anotheytraitii
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07 Jul 2014 05:43 PM
Not anymore. I've stopped lying a long time ago, maybe in January, when I came to a point of self-discovery.
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0Z0NE is not online. 0Z0NE
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07 Jul 2014 05:46 PM
I think that's a lie.
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Anikinis is not online. Anikinis
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07 Jul 2014 05:46 PM
"Whenever someone has a terrible opinion, they use Wikipedia!"
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anotheytraitii is not online. anotheytraitii
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07 Jul 2014 05:47 PM
It's not a lie. Why do you think I came out at that time? I was more confident in myself, and I was not ashamed, so I stopped lying about myself.
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0Z0NE is not online. 0Z0NE
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07 Jul 2014 05:50 PM
@Ani, Not always, but usually when someone is talking right out of their ass, wikipedia is their sole source of information.

And I think that's a lie too.
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anotheytraitii is not online. anotheytraitii
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07 Jul 2014 05:54 PM
How would it be a lie if what I said was true? Why did I come out at that time if I'm lying?
Also.
Wikipedia is typically not bulls//. We're not in grade four anymore.

Also Matthew... you do know what I'm talking about, right? Virtual particles. Since they were an even 50/50 split, they were "nothing". They cancelled each other.
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0Z0NE is not online. 0Z0NE
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07 Jul 2014 06:00 PM
But really you are lying.

I do not, I will not pretend to be a quantum physicist like you do frequently. Summing up quantum mechanics with your above statement made the field look like something found in a special education class. You shouldn't bring shame upon a field of science like that.
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anotheytraitii is not online. anotheytraitii
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07 Jul 2014 06:02 PM
If I'm lying then why have I given timestamped pictures of myself?
I never claimed to be any sort of scientist.
And I explained it really simply because

1. would be forever to explain it all
2. i dont know exactly about it
3. You definitely would not understand.

Holy hell, it's quantum physics. It's not easy.
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0Z0NE is not online. 0Z0NE
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07 Jul 2014 06:13 PM
Yeah, your probably lying.

I wouldn't understand something less vague than "hurr, its not real but is but its not k"? I think I'd rather read something that displays some level of intelligence, even if I found it hard to comprehend. At least there'd be something to go off of other than something which appears to have no relation to any field of physics in existence..
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anotheytraitii is not online. anotheytraitii
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07 Jul 2014 06:14 PM
Well they're called virtual particles for a reason. They're particles, but virtual. They cancelled each other out because of the matterantimatter pairs.
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0Z0NE is not online. 0Z0NE
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07 Jul 2014 06:18 PM
So something purely theoretical (in the sense of well, there might be something there!) is allowed to break the law of conservation of mass? Something exists even though nothing exists? I think something important is being left out because that's unadulterated crap. If mass cannot be created or destroyed, and all existing objects have mass, how is it possible for these "virtual particles" to exist?
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