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Re: How do you think anti-abuse should work?

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Aesthetical is not online. Aesthetical
Joined: 01 Jan 2014
Total Posts: 2141
03 Jul 2014 07:33 PM
After a recent outcry of abusers in this game, I implemented an anti abuse system that kicks players. However, it soon proved to be terrible, either stopping the guards from controlling riots, or not working and letting the guards abuse anyways.

So now I'm asking the community on how they think the anti-guard abuse system should work. Decide the rules for the new anti-abuse system, and describe how it should work. If your idea is particularly original and ingenious, then I will buy a game pass or t-shirt of yours for 1,000 R$.

Thanks!
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cookieeater70 is not online. cookieeater70
Joined: 25 May 2011
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03 Jul 2014 07:41 PM
I was thinking for the guards abuse by killing and not allowing surrender: as a prisoner if you have 50 or lower health left, you can say "I surrender" this will make you unable to move,take damage, use weapons or regenerate health. the guard will then have to handcuff you and this will teleport you back to your spawn. (Prison spawn if you surrender and are a citizen.)
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Catchy8 is not online. Catchy8
Joined: 28 Jun 2012
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03 Jul 2014 07:42 PM
i think anti abuse is where police cant kill civilians unless they attack first and for the prisoners only are allowed to be killed if there not doing what there suppose to be doing or if they escape
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cookieeater70 is not online. cookieeater70
Joined: 25 May 2011
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03 Jul 2014 07:42 PM
I forgot to mention citiens should be able to use this too
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tadcool is not online. tadcool
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03 Jul 2014 07:43 PM
I was thinking Guards can only kill the ones who have tools.
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Catchy8 is not online. Catchy8
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03 Jul 2014 07:44 PM
are ideas would work together the civilian part and the prisoner surrender part
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Intrance is not online. Intrance
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03 Jul 2014 07:47 PM
My idea is to allow prisoners to surrender. By allowing prisoners to surrender, a prisoner cannot be damaged. Then the guard will then handcuff the prisoner and take him back to his cell. A prisoner can surrender at any moment, but if a prisoner surrenders, he cannot pick up guns, shoot at guards, or damage anybody. By surrendering, the prisoner is allowing himself to be taken back to his cell. Maybe add a no-kill zone, so guards cannot spawn kill. Maybe add a script where if you kill a prisoner in the first 5 seconds or so after a prisoner spawns, then the spawn killing guard will be respawned.
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Intrance is not online. Intrance
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03 Jul 2014 07:49 PM
Also, citizens should be allowed to use this tool.
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Dogebro12 is not online. Dogebro12
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03 Jul 2014 07:49 PM
I think cookie and Ctachy ideas together would be a great new anti-abuse system. But not tadcool's because what if they escape. Then how could you kill them and they didn't have a weapon with them.
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BuriedBlock is not online. BuriedBlock
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03 Jul 2014 07:51 PM
Pretty simple idea, once a cop kills a citizen or criminal, have the script check their tools and see if they had the 'Surrender' tool. If they kill a certain number of players with this tool out, it switches their team to Criminals. And after 5 minutes their number of kills with surrendered reset. ( Sort of a revised version of Cookies)
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tadcool is not online. tadcool
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03 Jul 2014 07:52 PM
You guys have too complicated ideas, just use a simple one.

Like the cop is aloud to kill any prisoner/civilian who has a tool.
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Aleminum is not online. Aleminum
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03 Jul 2014 07:53 PM
Citizens should not have guns, and there should be a "vote kick button"
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syed117 is not online. syed117
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03 Jul 2014 07:55 PM
Surrender tool.
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JacobTow is not online. JacobTow
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03 Jul 2014 07:55 PM
1. Make a surrender button. Make it so that you cannot take damage if you hit the surrender button and you cannot pull out weapons after surrendering.

2. Do not allow civilians to have guns. All they do is abuse and it makes no sense.

3.
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jamespokemon9203 is not online. jamespokemon9203
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03 Jul 2014 07:56 PM
Well I think you should check if they are multiple people getting killed in a small amount time from one player, if so delete the cops tools which gives the civilians a break. You could also use a basic vote to kick so people can decide if people are abusing but people should NOT be notified when someone has voted to kick a cop and you make a cool down of 5 minutes at least to stop abusing of it you can slightly modify my idea as much as you want but those suggestions are what I think are the most efficient way. this will allow the cops to kill freely but if they are abusing like not letting them outside or not bringing them anywhere they can vote to kick them or delete the tools to give the prisoners a chance.

P.S excuse my poor grammar.

Best,
James
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NindoNinja is not online. NindoNinja
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03 Jul 2014 07:56 PM
This suggestion may not fix abuse but making inmates faster than guards because one its common sense when you have a gun they are heavy you should move slower and it would make the fight tool effective than guns so guns arent over powered inmates can get a chance to fight back and tazing should make you invincible because tazing and shooting someone is not right or make a way if they kill they become an inmate
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weesharktoothV2 is not online. weesharktoothV2
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03 Jul 2014 07:59 PM
Personally, I think you should take away the guns. Tasers should do just fine and handcuffs. A "send to cell" tool would work, too. i personally think no one should have guns because without them, people could enjoy the game without being viciously mauled every second.




Thanks,
Wee.
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swagmuffin20 is not online. swagmuffin20
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03 Jul 2014 07:59 PM
I have an idea, Have a voting system. If 5 people vote for that person to be kicked. They get kicked. If this happens more than once they recieve longer and longer bans.

Thanks,
~swagmuffin20

Anyone who says nothing is impossible has clearly never tried to staple jello to a tree.
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GeckoFriend is not online. GeckoFriend
Joined: 20 May 2014
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03 Jul 2014 08:00 PM
I think it would be a great idea if the anti-abuse system worked like this:

For guards: People should have a tool in their inventory that says "Vote". They can equip it and if they click on a person, they can vote to kick them for abusing. What they have to do to vote after clicking on the person is type in a box a reason why they should be kicked. Others of that team will be able to read it in a little private chat or box, and they can vote to kick that person if they agree. After a third of that team votes, the guard gets kicked. On everyone's screen, it will say that the guard got kicked. This message will include their full username, rank, and one of the reasons why they were kicked. The guard cannot join that server again for 45 minutes, just in case they are planning on doing it again. PS: When the guard gets a vote, it shows it on their screen. It also says who voted to kick them, and why so if they get a chance they can stop.

For prisoners: The same thing, just prisoner-style.

For citizens, same thing as guards, just citizen-style.

NOTE: If the message doesn't make sense, for example a prisoner always equips a tazer when spawning and is killing guards, then it will not display a vote.

I hope this is a good idea, I thought it out thoroughly and decided there doesn't seem to be anything wrong. For anyone who reads this, I hope you agree and remember that your ideas are good too.
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IIHawksII is not online. IIHawksII
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03 Jul 2014 08:01 PM
If they kill more than a certain amount of people, make the server kick them.
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TheEpicObbyCreator is not online. TheEpicObbyCreator
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03 Jul 2014 08:05 PM
If they get a certain amount of KOs and if they reach that it takes away their ability to get weapons for a period of time.
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wannahackmenicetry33 is not online. wannahackmenicetry33
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03 Jul 2014 08:06 PM
i think it should work by giving a warning then if they keep doing it the server kicks them
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wannahackmenicetry33 is not online. wannahackmenicetry33
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03 Jul 2014 08:10 PM
And if the kick could move them it could abuse gates and stuff
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jetfirejay5 is not online. jetfirejay5
Joined: 20 Nov 2012
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03 Jul 2014 08:10 PM
for one i dont really like the anti abuse because 5 prisoners were trying to kill me but i dont want to get kicked so i didnt shoot them i try my best to taser them and i also think if you are handcuffed you cannot use anything




-jetfirejay5
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MarioLuigi35 is not online. MarioLuigi35
Joined: 23 May 2010
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03 Jul 2014 08:11 PM
Here's a scenario:

Bob, a guard, abuses.

Server kicks

Bob rejoins and begins

People PM you to ban him

You have to work.
__

Instead of all of that, you can:

BAN THE MORONS THAT ABUSE. STOP BEING A GOODIE-GOODIE AND REALIZE THAT ABUSERS ARE INBRED MORONS THAT DO NOTHING ALL DAY.

YOU NEED TO TAKE ACTION INSTEAD OF BEING A WORTHLESS, GOOD-FOR-NOTHING GAME OWNER.

BAN
THEM.
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