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Re: What if we don't exist at all?

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spydig is not online. spydig
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28 Jun 2014 09:10 PM
Really, think of this. What if we are somehow just some guy's dream. Or, perhaps, something happened to make us all on a sleep-like trance? Or, is it entirely possible one of you reading this right now is simply dreaming they're foruming.

If that last line is true, what a waste of a dream.

Explain.
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yoda9801 is not online. yoda9801
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28 Jun 2014 09:19 PM
An old guy said, "I think therefore I am", but this guy has no way to prove that he is not someone's dream just saying that. So as long as you can think then you know you are real, but you have no way to prove that to others.
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JamesGalt is not online. JamesGalt
Joined: 01 Sep 2007
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28 Jun 2014 09:26 PM
You needed reality to even say that.

Also, the phrase "I think therefore I am" is wrong on a metaphysical level.

Reality comes first. the phrase should really be "I am therefore I'll think"
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heatwave200 is not online. heatwave200
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29 Jun 2014 12:25 AM
OUCH MY BRAIN.
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anotheytraitii is not online. anotheytraitii
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29 Jun 2014 12:52 AM
Are you saying things in your dreams are non-existent? Actually, did you know that thoughts and even dreams are physical? They exist as chemical reactions and electrical impulses in people's brains. If we were really all part of someone's dream, then we are made of those electrical impulses and we are actually inside a brain. Besides, doesn't your hypothesis sort of contradict your religion?

Maybe you should write a fiction book on this idea. Where all the people live in some dude's dream.
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wraith730 is not online. wraith730
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29 Jun 2014 01:10 AM
Talk to the existentialists.
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mayor21 is not online. mayor21
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29 Jun 2014 02:03 AM
Nobody exists. Time doesn't exist. Its all an illusion yes time is a illusion
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2013Yay is not online. 2013Yay
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29 Jun 2014 02:14 AM
"Nobody exists. Time doesn't exist. Its all an illusion yes time is a illusion"

Time does exist, because space can't exist without time. Since the start of our Universe time and space does exist.

It is possible that we're dreaming, because a dream feels real. But there has to be a "real world" and if i'm dreaming i would have a memory of the "real world", but i doesn't.
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RobloxNavySeals is not online. RobloxNavySeals
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29 Jun 2014 03:13 AM
The phrase is "I think, therefore I am" because you are an individual, self-aware consciousness, so you must exist on a physical level.

Thus, I think, therefore I am.
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sonihi is online. sonihi
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29 Jun 2014 03:21 AM
How can I know you are real? Maybe I am the only real person? Where the donuts!
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RobloxNavySeals is not online. RobloxNavySeals
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29 Jun 2014 03:22 AM
Because I am a consciousness. If the universe was not real, I would be able to manipulate as I chose.
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sonihi is online. sonihi
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29 Jun 2014 03:23 AM
Wait in a dream why does everything behave to the laws of physics?
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Jigglets1 is not online. Jigglets1
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29 Jun 2014 04:03 AM
That's not true
Not all dreams have physics

Last night during my wet dream, my jizz was definitely not following the laws of physics
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ThugHeegy is not online. ThugHeegy
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29 Jun 2014 04:05 AM
you're my idol jig


--Baheeg banned for 7 days (STF+GW not for trade until further notice)
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DeusSupremus is not online. DeusSupremus
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29 Jun 2014 04:09 AM
Think about it in this way:
Quantum physics:

Shrödinger's cat:

This cat was put in a box with a dangerous material, 50/50 of killing the cat.
The box was completely sealed, so no one had any influence in what happens in it.
Alright, so without us knowing for sure if the cat inside is dead or alive (a 50/50 ) It's pretty much both alive and dead. It's in a super-form of being both dead and alive...

It IS dead, and it IS alive..
And we don't know until we open the box.
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powser51 is not online. powser51
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29 Jun 2014 04:21 AM
If we are a dream, why do we feel pain, why do we love, why do we hate, why do we die?
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TheVoidStrider is not online. TheVoidStrider
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29 Jun 2014 07:09 AM
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whyaname98 is not online. whyaname98
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29 Jun 2014 07:22 AM
What if we are a computer simulation created by an intelligent life form?

#LogicMakesSense
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iJimmeh is not online. iJimmeh
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29 Jun 2014 07:50 AM
All of the above are possibilities, we basically could be part of a dream of a higher life form.
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iJimmeh is not online. iJimmeh
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29 Jun 2014 07:52 AM
^Well that's the one I think is the most likely. :P
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stealthyninja588 is not online. stealthyninja588
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29 Jun 2014 11:08 AM
What if...
WE'RE IN THE MATRIX?!?!?!?!
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Schrodingers is not online. Schrodingers
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29 Jun 2014 11:45 AM
The fact that we have the ability to think proves that we exist.
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jamesfelicia is not online. jamesfelicia
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29 Jun 2014 11:58 AM
the fact we doubt our existence is proof of our existence
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anotheytraitii is not online. anotheytraitii
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29 Jun 2014 12:51 PM
Because we are conscious, we must exist physically in some way. So if we are part of a dream like Spydig has suggested, then we are self-aware brain waves. Which are physical things that do exist.
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