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Re: To the People Who Argue For the Christian God

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Gentaurg is not online. Gentaurg
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27 Jun 2014 10:54 AM
Let's forget that there is virtually no proof that god exists, and that faith in Him is entirely a quesiton of belief (not to forget that "belief" is something you dont choose, it is something you have).

Let's rather look at the contents of the Bible.

The Bible is, for the most part, PURE EVIL. Yes that's right. The christian god is so evil that you need to be TOLD "God is good" for you to believe that he in fact is good. Not only is He guilty of the largest genocide ever committed in known history (the noah flood), He is also guilty of things like promoting slavery, doing nothing about catastrophes that He apparently has the power to fully prevent etc.

Let's not forget that He sentences people WHO DO NOT BELIEVE IN HIM (keyword: BELIEVE - something that you have been CONVINCED to think is true through reasonable arguments, of which none exist to argue for the christian god) to ETERNAL TORTURE with NO CHANCE OF REDEMPTION. ...... WHAT? .........WHAT?

But should we pin all these crimes on God? Or should we pin it on the people who wrote the Bible? Or maybe the people who actually believe in it? a.k.a. you

I believe there is a God, but he is not the christian one. I believe the real god is a good one who would rather judge you depending on YOU BEING A GOOD PERSON OR NOT, something the Christian God apparently doesnt care about at all.
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anotheytraitii is not online. anotheytraitii
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27 Jun 2014 11:35 AM
I don't mean any offence to Christians but I'd like to share this. The most evil thing that the God of the Bible does is that he punishes humans infinitely for finite crimes. I cannot comprehend how that's moral in any way.

Also note that a vocal minority of Christians make the religion seem really more evil than it actually is.
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mathisawsome is not online. mathisawsome
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27 Jun 2014 11:37 AM
www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ufGsdlbwPI
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che46 is not online. che46
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27 Jun 2014 11:39 AM
you don't get saved for being a good person, you get saved by accepting Jesus Christ as your lord and savior

let people believe what they want and stop posting this garbage
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Gentaurg is not online. Gentaurg
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27 Jun 2014 11:43 AM
exactly! you get saved by accepting jesus christ as your lrod and savior, not by being a good person.

that means that god will burn everyone who doesnt achknowledge his position as our god forever and forever

hmm lets think for a second

hitIer was a christian, right? but the jews that perished during his rampage did NOT accept jesus christ as their saviour because they did not believe in him. does that mean that he now sits in heaven, while all those jews burn in hell? what kind of twisted person would even THINK that someone who allows this is a GOOD GOD?
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crusader583 is not online. crusader583
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27 Jun 2014 11:46 AM
Mr. Heetler was NOT a Christian for freak's sake, guys

He was raised Catholic but when he took power he endorsed the old Germanic pagan religions and had people worship him
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mathisawsome is not online. mathisawsome
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27 Jun 2014 11:47 AM
You get saved for being a good person, not just believing in Jesus and God. All those people are wrong. You think God gives a crap about someone believing him or not?
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Gentaurg is not online. Gentaurg
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27 Jun 2014 11:47 AM
no germany was a christian nation at the time
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anotheytraitii is not online. anotheytraitii
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27 Jun 2014 11:47 AM
"let people believe what they want"

You should do the same.
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crusader583 is not online. crusader583
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27 Jun 2014 11:47 AM
In 1941 Goebbels wrote; "Heetler HATES Christianity, as it has ruined all that is noble in humanity"
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Gentaurg is not online. Gentaurg
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27 Jun 2014 11:47 AM
mathis but thats what it says in the bible. if you accept jesus christ as your saviour, you go to heaven, no matter what the hell you did during your life
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crusader583 is not online. crusader583
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27 Jun 2014 11:49 AM
Germany being a Christian nation has nothing to do with the fact that Heetler and the SS endorsed Germanic mysticism and the original pagan religions, NOT Christianity.

If you want a religious fascist state, take a look at Franco's Spain.
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jplynn is not online. jplynn
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27 Jun 2014 11:49 AM
"hitIer was a christian, right? but the jews that perished during his rampage did NOT accept jesus christ as their saviour because they did not believe in him. does that mean that he now sits in heaven,"


How much research have you done on the Bible?
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Gentaurg is not online. Gentaurg
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27 Jun 2014 11:50 AM
give me a source that he was not a christian

and besides - germany being a christian nation is enough, as the people actively partook in jew oppression
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27 Jun 2014 11:50 AM
'You get saved for being a good person, not just believing in Jesus and God. All those people are wrong. You think God gives a crap about someone believing him or not?'

how do you even know this? Does the bible say this


ummm.... No of course not..

john 3:16

for god so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish , but have everlasting life

show me where the bible says you get saved for being a good person

and in response to the hitker question I have no idear
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mathisawsome is not online. mathisawsome
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27 Jun 2014 11:50 AM
Bible this, Bible that. The Bible is not always right, dumbass. It was written by PEOPLE, not God or Jesus. There was a convention to choose what to write in the Bible.




Sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
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evilkiller108 is not online. evilkiller108
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27 Jun 2014 11:51 AM
Sorry, I can't hear your B.S. over my BIBLE!
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Gentaurg is not online. Gentaurg
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27 Jun 2014 11:51 AM
am i wrong? if hitIer accepted jesus christ as his savior, despite being responsible for uncountable atrocious acts, would he not be accepted into heaven? please correct me
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evilkiller108 is not online. evilkiller108
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27 Jun 2014 11:53 AM
>murders people
>accepts jebus
>expects heaven
Doesn't make much sense to me. But then again, some random atheist wouldn't understand. One person even tried to say that Christianity promotes suicide. xD
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crusader583 is not online. crusader583
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27 Jun 2014 11:54 AM
@gent

I could give you a thousand sources if I wasn't on my iPhone, he was raised Catholic but the /\/azis were not endorsers of Christianity, FFS go to a website without the anti-religious bull and head to Wikipedia or something and you'll learn they supported reverting back to the pagan religions...
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jplynn is not online. jplynn
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27 Jun 2014 11:55 AM
Do you even KNOW the Ten Commandments?
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Gentaurg is not online. Gentaurg
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27 Jun 2014 11:55 AM
you wanna calm down lol?
also forgive me for not taking your word for it but i will want to see where youre finding this stuff
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jplynn is not online. jplynn
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27 Jun 2014 11:57 AM
I think that the Commandments are in Exodus.
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Gentaurg is not online. Gentaurg
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27 Jun 2014 11:58 AM
hmm the ten commandments

1 WORSHIP ME
2 WORSHIP ME
3 WORSHIP ME
4 WORSHIP ME OR DIE
5 HONOR YOUR FATHER AND MOTHER
6-9 obvious human morality and the only 3 here that make sense
10 DONT WANT STUFF
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crusader583 is not online. crusader583
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27 Jun 2014 12:00 PM
@gent

Cute way of generalizing a religion, reminds me when I was 9 and learned that God probably wasn't real.
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