ssempre
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| 26 Jun 2014 12:33 PM |
| I keep reading "Islam should be criticized" on here. Do you guys really think that innocent Muslim people deserve to be killed, harassed, attacked, beaten, and verbally abused? |
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SpiffyAlt
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| 26 Jun 2014 12:51 PM |
"Do you guys really think that innocent Muslim people deserve to be killed, harassed, attacked, beaten, and verbally abused?"
After the Muslims that hurt us, yes we should. |
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AlteFritz
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| 26 Jun 2014 12:55 PM |
| The religion that encourages its followers to kill heretics should not be questioned! |
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| 26 Jun 2014 12:56 PM |
| Islamic people like to state that the people we see on television blowing themselves up and killing people senselessly is a small majority of their religion. That statement is true, but those extremists are responsible for a huge majority of international and domestic terrorism globally, so yes, Islam should be critisized. |
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ssempre
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| 26 Jun 2014 01:10 PM |
"After the Muslims that hurt us, yes we should."
but they aren't those muslims??? notice how I said "innocent muslim people" not "islamic extremists"
"Islamic people like to state that the people we see on television blowing themselves up and killing people senselessly is a small majority of their religion. That statement is true, but those extremists are responsible for a huge majority of international and domestic terrorism globally, so yes, Islam should be critisized."
but there's a difference between not agreeing with a religion and harassing people who believe that religion. Question the teachings of Islam without killing, attacking, or harassing muslims. |
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| 26 Jun 2014 01:12 PM |
| I hate people who insult Islam due to extremism. |
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| 26 Jun 2014 01:16 PM |
"The religion that encourages its followers to kill heretics should not be questioned!"
Except it doesn't? |
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| 26 Jun 2014 01:17 PM |
"That statement is true, but those extremists are responsible for a huge majority of international and domestic terrorism globally, so yes, Islam should be critisized."
Argument fallacy |
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kitty234
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| 26 Jun 2014 01:19 PM |
That's not even a real logical fallacy.
I ϟold My ϟoul for Rock 'n' Roll |
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| 26 Jun 2014 01:26 PM |
| Yes it is. Hasty Generalization |
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kitty234
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| 26 Jun 2014 01:28 PM |
That is but there's no such thing as the "Argument Fallacy".
Besides refer to this: https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/the-fallacy-fallacy
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| 26 Jun 2014 01:30 PM |
| I think he meant it was a fallacy in general |
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| 26 Jun 2014 01:41 PM |
Islam shouldn't be criticized, because as a whole Islam did nothing wrong. If a group of extremists commit terrorism, they should be the ones who are punished. People who generalize Islam to be full of terrorists are the same people who don't know what Islam is all about. Islam is actually a very beautiful religion, and every single Muslim I have ever met has been extremely nice and welcoming. The Qur'an does not tell people to bomb buildings. Might I remind everyone of the crusades, where Christians literally slaughtered hundreds of people as they traveled around trying to convert people? |
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JayyxC
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| 26 Jun 2014 01:44 PM |
| Islamophobic, a word created by fascists, and used by cowards to manipulate morons. |
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ssempre
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| 26 Jun 2014 01:47 PM |
"Islam is actually a very beautiful religion, and every single Muslim I have ever met has been extremely nice and welcoming. The Qur'an does not tell people to bomb buildings."
I agree, that is why I reverted. |
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| 26 Jun 2014 01:48 PM |
"Might I remind everyone of the crusades, where Christians literally slaughtered hundreds of people as they traveled around trying to convert people?"
1. Crusades were fought by Roman Catholics not whole of Christianity
2. The weren't trying to convert people they were trying to recapture the Holy Land |
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JayyxC
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| 26 Jun 2014 01:51 PM |
"The Qur'an does not tell people to bomb buildings"
I say the idea of paradise for martyrs, is telling people to bomb buildings. |
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JayyxC
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| 26 Jun 2014 02:01 PM |
| Religions of peace don't kill people, over depictions of the prophet, or works of literature. |
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| 26 Jun 2014 02:12 PM |
| MIDF reporting for duty please spam your cherrypicked quranic verses so i can debunk them |
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| 26 Jun 2014 02:13 PM |
| Religion in general should be criticized. |
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JayyxC
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| 26 Jun 2014 02:24 PM |
By definition, there is no such thing as a religion of peace.
"Believers, take neither Jews nor Christians for your friends." (Surah 5:51)
"Make war on them until idolatry shall cease and God's religion shall reign supreme." (Surah 8:36-)
"If you do not fight, He will punish you sternly, and replace you by other men." (Surah 9:37-) |
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| 26 Jun 2014 02:46 PM |
""Believers, take neither Jews nor Christians for your friends." (Surah 5:51)"
i dont see how this is violent but its still a misquoted verse
the word awliya is often incorrectly translated as friends (awliya is the plural and its singular is wali and the concept is walaah). as a result, many people are under the misconception that this verse commands muslims to distance themselves from non-muslims and to avoid friendship with them. this is far from the truth, as we shall see after examining the meaning of the word awliya. the qur'an says:
3:122 ...Allah was their >WALI< (protector), and in Allah should the faithful (Ever) put their trust.
i shouldnt have to explain this
""Make war on them until idolatry shall cease and God's religion shall reign supreme." (Surah 8:36)"
where the hell did you get that verse did you get it from religionofpeace?
the actual verse is completely different google surah 8:36
""If you do not fight, He will punish you sternly, and replace you by other men." (Surah 9:37)"
again where the hell did you get this
verse 9:37 doesn't say that |
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| 26 Jun 2014 03:26 PM |
| Great, another group of people we're not allowed to criticise according to ssempre. |
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Riducule
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| 26 Jun 2014 04:21 PM |
@Duck
Oh god, did he really say not to crit-
okay he did, but, of course, you can criticize it, feel free, but if you're just going to misquote stuff and due it because of that small minority, then...there's no point.
@Jay
BTW, before you start saying to br0ck (i think thats his name) that the verse, ''Never take Jews nor Christians as your protectors,'' that, ''oh well ur so mean why do u hate jews/christians so much????'', because, at the time that it was written Jewish and a few Christian tribes, to almost everyone, especially Muslims, had backstabbed them, so at the time it was written, it was perfectly acceptable among that small party.
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ssempre
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| 26 Jun 2014 04:39 PM |
"okay he did, but, of course, you can criticize it, feel free, but if you're just going to misquote stuff and due it because of that small minority, then...there's no point."
first of all, I'm a girl and I literally said it's ok to disagree or question islam just STOP harassing Muslims. |
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