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Re: The Logic of E X T I N C T Members

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Cubyfan22 is not online. Cubyfan22
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24 Jun 2014 10:14 PM
[T.C.I.] Derrick Woodcock (ProtectiveManEgg): It's still for sale because I'm not selling any rights along with it

He's sold a place once, and is selling it again.

It gets better.

[T.C.I.] Derrick Woodcock (ProtectiveManEgg): My grandfather is practically a lawyer, so don't try that whole "scamming" sharade on me.

I didn't know "practically" being something meant you were one.

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protectivemanegg is not online. protectivemanegg
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24 Jun 2014 10:16 PM
"Practically" meaning he's qualified. You don't know what "Practically" means?

Either way, I sold no rights along with it, meaning I can continue to sell it if I want. It's not against the law to resell if I never sold away my rights.


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Cubyfan22 is not online. Cubyfan22
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24 Jun 2014 10:16 PM
This is ROBLOX, on the Internet laws are completely different because it's globally used.

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soardlo is not online. soardlo
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24 Jun 2014 10:17 PM
Object being what is created

rights being the ability to create and sell the object

therefore you're an idiot cuby.

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SwiftOverlord is not online. SwiftOverlord
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24 Jun 2014 10:17 PM
derrick is autistic
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Lrn2iBurning is not online. Lrn2iBurning
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24 Jun 2014 10:18 PM
A better argument is

Why is some proud to be a lawyer on an online site?
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UrbanPhoenix is not online. UrbanPhoenix
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24 Jun 2014 10:19 PM
The guy could live in Somalia.
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Zilven is not online. Zilven
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24 Jun 2014 10:19 PM
I agree with Cuby, though. You shouldn't sell something twice, it basically becomes a free model.
If I were one of the ones who bought it, i would literally make it a free model just to make him pay. Lmao.

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protectivemanegg is not online. protectivemanegg
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24 Jun 2014 10:19 PM
"This is ROBLOX, on the Internet laws are completely different because it's globally used."

Laws are all the same. The internet is bound by national laws which are put in place to keep people safe from many things. The poor thing is that because there are so many federal criminals, nobody can keep track of this, an actually enforce several of these safety laws.

If you're to get a patent and make a product, you can continue to sell this product all you want, and it would be legal. Now, if you were to sell this patent, you sell all of these rights away, and it would be illegal to sell this item as you have no rights to it anymore.

Again, laws are laws. No matter the situation, no matter the location, they will never change (not speaking on an international level).


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ValiantCorsair is not online. ValiantCorsair
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24 Jun 2014 10:20 PM
I wouldn't be so surprised considering the tryhard essence of the group's name.

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protectivemanegg is not online. protectivemanegg
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24 Jun 2014 10:21 PM
"Why is some proud to be a lawyer on an online site?"

Never said I was a lawyer, I said my grandfather was qualified to be, so I know about laws and how the system works


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ValiantCorsair is not online. ValiantCorsair
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24 Jun 2014 10:22 PM
You cannot legally copyright a place on ROBLOX, if that's what this is about, because those laws do not apply to ROBLOX places or models.
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soardlo is not online. soardlo
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24 Jun 2014 10:24 PM
@valiant

Actually they do in a way believe it or not

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ROBLOX's Copyright Agent can be reached at copyright_agent@roblox.com or P.O. Box 1265, San Mateo, CA 94401,"

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protectivemanegg is not online. protectivemanegg
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24 Jun 2014 10:25 PM
You cannot legally copyright a place on ROBLOX, if that's what this is about, because those laws do not apply to ROBLOX places or models.
> Meaning you cannot sell rights away, making my point valid

If you want to be legit on something completely yours, of course you could sell "pretend" rights away, resulting in this item not being allowed to be resold. The item in question though isn't completely mine, and credit is given to whom designed the core of it; Theorizing. To go into further detail, the item in question is also being sold for an EXTREMELY low price so really, I could care less for what happens. I could make it open-source if I really wanted to, that's how low it's being sold for so I really don't care.


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ValiantCorsair is not online. ValiantCorsair
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24 Jun 2014 10:25 PM
Never saw that before.

Anywho, let me rephrase that.

It would be very hard to copyright something on ROBLOX considering you'd have to go through a legal process which no 12 year old wants to do, let alone can they.
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soardlo is not online. soardlo
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24 Jun 2014 10:27 PM
@valiant I'm just as surprised as you honestly.

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protectivemanegg is not online. protectivemanegg
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24 Jun 2014 10:28 PM
I agree with you Valiant. That's why when something matters to me that I'm selling, I actually go and create these little "pretend" rights.

Fact: To actually put rights on something, there is an amount of money to pay, whether it's on a video game that's free (in a sense) or not. Either way, a chunk of money has to be paid.


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ValiantCorsair is not online. ValiantCorsair
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24 Jun 2014 10:28 PM
So what's this quarrel over again?

I got lost. Did someone copy something?!
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TheManyLegends is not online. TheManyLegends
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24 Jun 2014 10:31 PM
We all live in different countries (I'm not american). Laws may have the same outcome, but they are all worded differently from country to country. Laws also get tricky when it involves more than one country. So Protective, your threat that your 'grandfather is a lawyer' is less scary than it actually is.
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gamma2244 is not online. gamma2244
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24 Jun 2014 10:31 PM
@Protective

Yes, because you have a patent for something made on someone else's patented product. Logic.

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protectivemanegg is not online. protectivemanegg
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24 Jun 2014 10:32 PM
Well, this quarrel is over me selling something which I literally "gave" Cuby. He thinks I'm scamming him because I can sell what I "gave" him. Oh yes, "gave," he never paid for it, nor offered. I figured that since I wanted to help TCI and increase activity (yes, holographic training centres do that (because of their essence, people begin intrigued and get more active)) among much more.

TL;DR version:

Cuby thinks I'm scamming because I'm selling what I gave him for free. He wanted C&G's input, he got his logic smashed, and stopped posting.


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ValiantCorsair is not online. ValiantCorsair
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24 Jun 2014 10:32 PM
It isn't scamming.
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TheManyLegends is not online. TheManyLegends
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24 Jun 2014 10:32 PM
ROBLOX owns everything you create, like how FB owns a photo you post there (FB= Face book)
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Vuar is not online. Vuar
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24 Jun 2014 10:33 PM
why does cuby treat his ex members like they're inferior



does he not realize he's ugly
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LordGan is not online. LordGan
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24 Jun 2014 10:35 PM
tl;dr

gtfo cuby you are going to lose your HR's and support. Oh wait.
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