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Re: Why don't Nikkilis and Loleris do what Clone does?

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nairb is not online. nairb
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23 Jun 2014 06:09 PM
It would be the solution to cyberbullying in murder gamed/Juggernaut games everywhere.

Basically, give you the full amount of points your role should have gained when you won, during the times that your role loses.

I.E, the killer in Murder Mystery gains 50 Points on death and the Innocents/Sheriff gain 10 on total defeat. And in The Mad Murderer, have the Innocents gain 5 points and the previous Sheriff 8 upon total defeat, and the killer gains 18 on death. Player Points also get distributed on death.
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xXRoxyXx123 is not online. xXRoxyXx123
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23 Jun 2014 06:09 PM
#StopBullyingNow
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nairb is not online. nairb
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23 Jun 2014 06:17 PM
Instead of "gamed", "games".
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nairb is not online. nairb
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23 Jun 2014 06:38 PM
Seriously. A lot of the grudging would stop if there was incentive enough for participating, and incentive being taken out of winning.

The concepts of "greed" and "theft" would be thrown out the window.
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andreo3333 is not online. andreo3333
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23 Jun 2014 06:46 PM
Because it would be un-original?
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nairb is not online. nairb
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23 Jun 2014 06:48 PM
I'd rather have un-originality and safety from deletion than originality and a high risk of getting deleted.
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Aerospaceman is not online. Aerospaceman
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23 Jun 2014 06:49 PM
So youre saying that when you win or lose you get the same amount of points? That doesn't even make any sense. If you win, you get points. If you lose, you don't. That's fair.
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nairb is not online. nairb
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23 Jun 2014 06:51 PM
@Aerospaceman

If you lose, you don't get any points and cyberbully the idiot who stole them from you.

Not fair at all.
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bOOandya is not online. bOOandya
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23 Jun 2014 06:51 PM
For people to play games, and play them right, there has to be incentive to win the game. The game is action oriented and is more fun with more competition. If you take away the incentive to win, people won't play the game in the way that it is meant to be played.
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Aerospaceman is not online. Aerospaceman
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23 Jun 2014 06:53 PM
If someone is cyberbullying, report them. There need to be incentives to win, otherwise there isn't any point in winning. That's like saying that one team lost the championship soccer game but both teams get the winning trophy because if they don't one team will be mean to the other. It's just stupid.
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nairb is not online. nairb
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23 Jun 2014 06:53 PM
The way the game was meant to be played indulges a culture of greed and hatred.
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nairb is not online. nairb
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23 Jun 2014 06:57 PM
@Aerospaceman

This is not the world cup, however.
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Siccity is not online. Siccity
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23 Jun 2014 06:57 PM
They shouldn't get ALL the points, but maybe a few. 1/4 or 1/2 is usually good, and still leaves enough of an incentive to win
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Aerospaceman is not online. Aerospaceman
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23 Jun 2014 06:57 PM
I just realized
You're one of those "everyone should win" parents.
Everyone winning doesn't teach anything about life, because not everyone wins, so get over it and report the "bullies" that I have never seen.
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Scootrbro is not online. Scootrbro
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23 Jun 2014 06:58 PM
cyberbullying doesn't exist

It's just kids being kids
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nairb is not online. nairb
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23 Jun 2014 07:00 PM
@Aerospaceman

I'm not a parent yet.

So life is a culture of greed and hatred, in your eyes?
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CatBoy1235 is not online. CatBoy1235
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23 Jun 2014 07:01 PM
Remove Player Points

Problem solved.

~ [ Quality > Quantity ] ~
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Aerospaceman is not online. Aerospaceman
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23 Jun 2014 07:02 PM
In many places, life is a culture of greed and hatred, but that wasn't what I was saying. I mean that people lose in life ex. applying for a job, sporting events, etc. Not everyone can win.
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nairb is not online. nairb
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23 Jun 2014 07:03 PM
You'd also have to remove the Points stat in both MM and TMM, as well as Levels/Credits in TMM.

If we are going that route. But I'd rather everyone win than stuff get removed to ease the pain of loss.
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CatBoy1235 is not online. CatBoy1235
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23 Jun 2014 07:04 PM
Remove everything.

Player points promote greed themselves.

We were better off without them.

~ [ Quality > Quantity ] ~
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nairb is not online. nairb
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23 Jun 2014 07:04 PM
@Aerospaceman

My vision of the future is one where everyone wins. Not where everyone loses.
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TheAwesomenessDude is not online. TheAwesomenessDude
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23 Jun 2014 07:05 PM
That's stupid.

Two guys apply for a job, one guy gets it, the other guy doesn't.
But hey, let's pay the guy who didn't make it the same amount as the guy working gets paid.
Sounds like a good idea to me.
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Aerospaceman is not online. Aerospaceman
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23 Jun 2014 07:06 PM
The problem is that not everyone can win.
When you have a job interview for one position, you can't give it to eight people.
Live in reality please.
People win and people lose.
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elitethunderturtle is not online. elitethunderturtle
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23 Jun 2014 07:06 PM
How about just stop playing the game if you get bullied?
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nairb is not online. nairb
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23 Jun 2014 07:06 PM
Or create the infrastructure needed for the guy who didn't get the job gets the job anyway.
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