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Re: "The more corrupt a state the more it legislates"

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flatline115 is not online. flatline115
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21 Jun 2014 07:29 AM
- Tacitus
(His Credentials: Senator and Consul of the Roman Republic. As well as a governer and historian)
Source: Brainy Quote, Wikiquote etc.

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DesiredShark is not online. DesiredShark
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21 Jun 2014 09:45 AM
Pretty much correct.
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JamesGalt is not online. JamesGalt
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21 Jun 2014 09:48 AM
The more the plans fail the more the planners plan.
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Plexahedron is not online. Plexahedron
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21 Jun 2014 10:17 AM
The opposite holds the same death and destruction for all.
No goverment will ever be perfect.
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21 Jun 2014 05:49 PM
The opposite holds the same death and destruction for all.
No goverment will ever be perfect.
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Not really. I mean the gov. doesn't really need to have or create and issue or edict on everything. A lot of these regulations have no place and we'd be better off without most of them.
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22 Jun 2014 01:56 AM
There's so many things we need more regulations on, such as guns, alcohol, food, drugs, c02 output.
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22 Jun 2014 03:30 AM
There's so many things we need more regulations on, such as guns, alcohol, food, drugs, c02 output.
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Let's go through this:

food:
Yes. Because, the FDA didn't stop us from getting mad cow.

Guns: No. "Since at least 1965, the false assertion that the United States has 
the industrialized world’s highest murder rate has been an artifact 
of politically motivated Soviet minimization designed to hide the 
true homicide rates.2 Since well before that date, the Soviet Union possessed extremely stringent gun controls3 that were effectuated 
by a police state apparatus providing stringent enforcement.4 So 
successful was that regime that few Russian civilians now have 
firearms and very few murders involve them.5 
Yet, manifest suc‐
cess in keeping its people disarmed did not prevent the Soviet 
Union from having far and away the highest murder rate in the 
developed world.6 In the 1960s and early 1970s, the gun‐less So‐
viet Union’s murder rates paralleled or generally exceeded those 
of gun‐ridden America. While American rates stabilized and then 
steeply declined, however, Russian murder increased  so drasti‐
cally that  by the  early  1990s the Russian rate  was three times 
higher than that of the United States. Between 1998‐2004 (the lat‐
est figure available for Russia), Russian murder rates were nearly 
four times higher than American rates. Similar murder rates also 
characterize the Ukraine, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, and various 
other now‐independent European nations of the former U.S.S.R.7 
Thus, in the United States and the former Soviet Union transition‐
ing into current‐day Russia, “homicide results suggest that where 
guns are scarce other weapons are substituted in killings.”8 While 
American gun ownership is quite high, Table 1 shows many other 
developed  nations  (e.g.,  Norway,  Finland,  Germany,  France, 
Denmark)  with  high rates  of  gun  ownership.  These  countries, 
however, have murder rates as low or lower than many devel‐
oped nations in which gun ownership is much rarer."

Source: http://www.law.harvard.edu/students/orgs/jlpp/Vol30_No2_KatesMauseronline.pdf
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22 Jun 2014 03:30 AM
drugs:
See my FDA argument.

alcohol
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It is fine as is.
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22 Jun 2014 06:16 AM
So the United States is nowhere near the Russian mass genocide of the lower class. So this means you need a genocide to happen in the US before you will be called into action... kinda sad really.
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flatline115 is not online. flatline115
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22 Jun 2014 06:22 AM
So this means you need a genocide to happen in the US before you will be called into action... kinda sad really.
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In Russia the median income (generally) keeps rising. That's not a genocide - at all. As far as the sentence I am quoting:

The role of a government is to defend the people from invading nations, upholding legal contracts and upholding freedom. Besides that, this mass genocide you're creating out of thin air can only happen if laborers are willing to work for a lot less. And since labor is a commodity people will only sell their labor for what their human capital is worth when pertaining to said job.
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Plexahedron is not online. Plexahedron
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22 Jun 2014 06:29 AM
True flat, it has gotten better.
But there was a time, during communism, that the people of Russia were so afraid of their leaders that they killed their own workers who were normally lower class citizens if they were not working hard enough.
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22 Jun 2014 06:34 AM
My bad. I was refering to Stalin. Before 1965.
Sorry bout that, you are correct.
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