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Re: religion teaches moral values

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911t is not online. 911t
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19 Jun 2014 06:00 PM
i don't see the problem
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snick3r is not online. snick3r
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19 Jun 2014 06:01 PM
yes it so does,

then tell me why atheist (People with no religion) have better iq's then people with religions :^)
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XxthekittyloverxX is not online. XxthekittyloverxX
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19 Jun 2014 06:02 PM
Yeah...
Like beat women.

You live in Kalamazoo, you foo!
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19 Jun 2014 06:02 PM
"then tell me why atheist (People with no religion) have better iq's then people with religions :^)"

not choosing sides
but
morality=/=intelligence
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911t is not online. 911t
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19 Jun 2014 06:02 PM
@xx
proof pl0x

now you're just assuming crap about islam
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19 Jun 2014 06:03 PM
>then tell me why atheist (People with no religion) have better iq's then people with religions

that's a stereotype
but most atheists make assumptions too
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19 Jun 2014 06:03 PM
If that is the only reason people have morals the religious are repulsive subhuman filth
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SirDetective is not online. SirDetective
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19 Jun 2014 06:03 PM
about religion
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XxthekittyloverxX is not online. XxthekittyloverxX
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19 Jun 2014 06:03 PM
@911
Nah, I might get reported.

You live in Kalamazoo, you foo!
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XxasianfoodxX is not online. XxasianfoodxX
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19 Jun 2014 06:04 PM
"proof pl0x

now you're just assuming crap about islam"

no

in the quran it says it's okay to beat your wife

muhammad did it I think

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911t is not online. 911t
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19 Jun 2014 06:04 PM
@steez
well, religion is an extra add on to moral values
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19 Jun 2014 06:04 PM
If that is the only reason people have morals the religious are repulsive subhuman filth[2]
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SteezyC is not online. SteezyC
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19 Jun 2014 06:04 PM
No, it's not
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19 Jun 2014 06:05 PM
@xxasian
so you're telling me that all muslims beat their wife? that's false

i know that someone in here sounds insane, but it sure as hell ain't me
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XxasianfoodxX is not online. XxasianfoodxX
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19 Jun 2014 06:05 PM
here:

Qur'an (4:34)

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911t is not online. 911t
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19 Jun 2014 06:06 PM
@asian
that may be in the qur'an and i'm not going to deny it but i'm pretty sure that not all men are that insane

it's the extremists that are the problem, not islam
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19 Jun 2014 06:06 PM
"so you're telling me that all muslims beat their wife? that's false

i know that someone in here sounds insane, but it sure as hell ain't me"

keyword: all

do ALL Christians believe the world is 6,000 years old?
do ALL Christians believe dinosaurs and humans lived on the Earth at the same time?
do ALL priests touch boys?

of course not and it's crazy to think something like that

however in the quran it had passages about beating your wife

Qur'an (4:34)

Qur'an (4:34)

Qur'an (4:34)

Qur'an (4:34)
Qur'an (4:34)

Qur'an (4:34)

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19 Jun 2014 06:06 PM
"that's a stereotype
but most atheists make assumptions too"

I'm religious, or at least a little, but isn't that an assumption/stereotype on the way atheists think?

gosts gosts evyware
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19 Jun 2014 06:08 PM
@asian
so tell me, what's your proof that 100% of all men who believe in islam beat women?
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19 Jun 2014 06:08 PM
A new study of almost a century’s worth of data shows that the smarter you are, the less likely you are to believe in God.

The study, conducted by Miron Zuckerman, a psychologist at the University of Rochester, examined the findings of 63 earlier studies—one dating back to the 1920s—that measured intelligence and religiosity. The majority of those studies found that more intelligent people were more likely to lack religious beliefs.

“The relation between intelligence and religion is negative,” Zuckerman said. “It was very early in the study that we realized that.”

But Zuckerman is careful to point out that his work—known as a “meta-study” because it examines a range of other studies—does not mean only dumb people believe in God.

Rather, he said, it shows only that more intelligent people may have less need for religion.

“It is truly the wrong message to take from here that if I believe in God I must be stupid,” he said. “I would not want to bet any money on that because I would have a very good chance of losing a lot of money.”

Rather, Zuckerman and co-authors Jordan Silberman and Judith Hall write that more intelligent people may find certain basic needs—“functions” in psychology-speak—fulfilled outside of religion. These functions include self-esteem, a sense of community and a sense of purpose, among others.

“We say it is possible that having a high level of intelligence provides similar functions to what religion provides” for people who adhere to a religion, Zuckerman said.


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The study also concludes that more intelligent people are less likely to believe in God because they are more likely to challenge established norms and dogma. They are also more likely to have analytical thinking styles, which other studies have shown undermine religious belief.

The news is not bad for believers, Zuckerman insists.

“The functions we cover imply that in many ways religious people are better off than those who are nonreligious,” he said. “There are things about self-esteem and feeling in control and attachment that religion provides. In all those things, there are benefits to being religious, and that is the take-home message for those who are religious.”

R. Albert Mohler Jr., president of Southern Baptist Theological Seminary in Louisville, Ky., said he has “great concerns” about the study.

“This kind of study points to a very clear issue for believing Christians,” he said. “We do not draw support for our faith from scientific reports. Anyone whose faith is shaken by the claim that research proves that higher intelligence leads to lower levels of religious belief has a misplaced faith.”

Lillian Daniel is a Congregationalist pastor and author of the recent book “When ‘Spiritual But Not Religious’ is Not Enough.” She said many intelligent people are comfortable with “the metaphor and mystery” of faith.

“It’s not that intelligence leads to atheism, or education leads to loss of faith,” she said. “But I think there is a certain peer pressure as one moves up the educational ladder to dismiss all religion as fundamentalism. It’s one of the last acceptable biases in an environment that prides itself on being open-minded.”
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19 Jun 2014 06:08 PM
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19 Jun 2014 06:09 PM
"If that is the only reason people have morals the religious are repulsive subhuman filth"

You realize you are dressed like a neo-notsee while you said that, right?

gosts gosts evyware
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19 Jun 2014 06:09 PM
nice copy and paste steezy :^)
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19 Jun 2014 06:09 PM
I found loads of articles supporting the idea that atheists are more intelligent than theists

However, the only website denying this was a religious one

Funny
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19 Jun 2014 06:09 PM
"so tell me, what's your proof that 100% of all men who believe in islam beat women?"

"Are you daft?" - MacMillan

"do ALL Christians believe the world is 6,000 years old?
do ALL Christians believe dinosaurs and humans lived on the Earth at the same time?
do ALL priests touch boys?

of course not and it's crazy to think something like that"

no

do all muslims beat their wives? no

do some? yes

do some Christians believe the world is 6,000 years old? Yes

and on and on

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