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Re: Chicago, Illinois, 1945, Jmbay22's project idea

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erikjonesrodriguez is not online. erikjonesrodriguez
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18 Jun 2014 05:07 PM
four years later...after the Japanese almost bombed Canada, It was very common for there Street Fights, The Japanese have us cornered. I have my Grease Gun and a Sherman "Jumbo" (A Sherman Modified with Better Armor and a Gun built for breaking Enemy Defenses instead of Anti-Tank) has been blasting the Japanese shooting us from the Skyscrapers. A Burning Halftrack is just sitting in the road with roasted bodies next to it. Its a Bloodbath. The Japanese also brought in their Heavy Arty. They virtually destroyed this town. Its only a matter of time before were are captured...they want slaves, but me and a few members of our Resistance will not let that happen...We want freedom, we want this war to end, there will be no limit as we have been showed...the only way to stop them is to Rebel...but that's not really working as fast as we want it to. the Japanese are killing us...sending bounty hunters to hunt us down...there are greedy people in this world...this city is corrupted, we have traitors, we have killers...its a free for all, we need help...but we don't think that's coming...the U.S army is trying to help...but they have made a smaller dent then us, they are running out of resources, thieves steal them...they waste their ammo, its not helping (in the game you will be what you want...a bounty hunter, a soldier for either army, a runner, a member of the resistance, anything)
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XTGNecro is not online. XTGNecro
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18 Jun 2014 05:11 PM
"Sherman "Jumbo" (A Sherman Modified with Better Armor and a Gun built for breaking Enemy Defenses instead of Anti-Tank)"

Firstly, it's designation was M4A3E2 Sherman, Jumbo was only a nickname. It was a variant, therefore it wasn't modified, it was just built like that. Secondly, Sherman Guns were supposed to do both kill infantry and have anti - tank capabilities. HE shells, which means high explosive, explodes like in the movies, and therefore meant to kill infantry. AP shells mean Armor Piercing, which does exactly what it's meant to do. Specify the gun caliber is it a 76mm or a 105mm? If it's a 105mm, it would only load HE.

Thirdly, why would you use a tank in a streetfight? Aren't there cops?
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XTGNecro is not online. XTGNecro
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18 Jun 2014 05:13 PM
M4A3E2's were originally designated as Infantry Support tanks, hence the reason why most of them were armed with 105mms. Some were turned into tank hunters by mounting the 76mm cannon.
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18 Jun 2014 05:17 PM
Original M4 Shermans weren't meant for anti tank either. They were infantry support. The job of Anti Tank was for the M10 Wolverine, M4A3E8 (armed with a high velocity 76mm), or an M18 Hellcat. The armor on a M4A3E2 was built for breaking enemy defenses, but the gun wasn't.
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XTGNecro is not online. XTGNecro
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18 Jun 2014 05:18 PM
mfw no one has an idea what I'm talking about
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Cypraid is not online. Cypraid
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18 Jun 2014 05:18 PM
>Sherman "Jumbo"
first of all, it's called an M4A3E2, which wasn't just for anti-bunker/infantry purposes, and secondly, you imply that the Japanese "have us cornered" and however you also say that you are NOT a part of the US Army, as they are only trying to help. can you explain how you managed to get an M4A3E2 Sherman, keep it intact and repaired, and even run it with only ONE CREWMEMBER, all the while you claim that the US Army's resources are being "stolen" by "thieves." yeah, that M4A3E2 just drove up to you with keys in the ignition. finally, your statement about the Japanese "sending bounty hunters to hunt us down." uh, "bounty hunters?" aka civillian contractors doing work for an entire army which already managed to take over an entire continent? jesus christ, you are either really dumb or have no idea what you're talking about.

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BringerOfWar is not online. BringerOfWar
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18 Jun 2014 05:19 PM
"years after japan bombed canada"

>implying an under developed island country can defeat a country in NATO.
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XTGNecro is not online. XTGNecro
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18 Jun 2014 05:21 PM
What he said. You can't operate a M4A3E2 all by yourself, maybe the turret but that would only work so long. Plus, Japan has inferior tanks. Chi-Ha was nothing compared to the Shermans we had, plus the Pershing that we were rolling out late in the war. The Chi-Nu was kept at Japan as anticipation for a land assault and even then, the Chi Nu is basically a less armored Sherman.
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XTGNecro is not online. XTGNecro
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18 Jun 2014 05:22 PM
@Bringer

Also, what happened to Mexico, and all the other allies?
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Cypraid is not online. Cypraid
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18 Jun 2014 05:22 PM
also, i'm not done yet.
"after the Japanese almost bombed Canada"
yep, a country which has 90 percent of it's population within driving distance to the US border getting "bombed" somehow DRASTICALLY EFFECTED the US being taken over. this entire cluster of crap seems like an obvious copy of the wolfenstine series, but made by an idiot who gets his world war two knowledge from history channel.

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XTGNecro is not online. XTGNecro
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18 Jun 2014 05:24 PM
And what about China? China was getting imports from Russia, aka the nation who had better tanks than Japan. Japan was getting beat up in the war against Russia, and by then Japan would've been invaded by both China and Russia. I'm sure T-34-85's, IS-2's, and the later IS-3's would've taken Japan down easily. Plus, the IS-7, one of Russias best but never mass produced tank, was being tested.
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Cypraid is not online. Cypraid
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18 Jun 2014 05:24 PM
oh, and by the way, to add on to XTG's statement, some of the japanese tanks of the era could be taken out by a bayonet, or simply shooting it in the rear with a BAR light machinegun. most late variant shermans were used in the european theater because, in the words of a veteran at my local hobby shop, "we had to shoot them japanese tanks with HE rounds, because AP passed through them like they were a stick of butter."

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XTGNecro is not online. XTGNecro
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18 Jun 2014 05:26 PM
kids, this is why you don't watch history channel.
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XTGNecro is not online. XTGNecro
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18 Jun 2014 05:27 PM
Canada also had tanks just like the US, such as the Ram II.
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18 Jun 2014 05:29 PM
oh, and i'm gonna add some more stuff to this:
most of japan's land-based bombers could in no way reach canada, much the less hawaii, and even if they managed to get a force of carrier based bombers close to mainland us, their small numbers and sizes would be torn apart by triple a fire and superior american air force fighters, supposing they would even get off their decks before the carrier was blown to bits. also, by 1944, japan's air forces were ragged and futile, and they had very, very few undamaged and floating aircraft carriers in operation at the time because of events like the battle of midway.

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XTGNecro is not online. XTGNecro
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18 Jun 2014 05:30 PM
Also, I don't think Japanese used half-tracks.
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XTGNecro is not online. XTGNecro
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18 Jun 2014 05:31 PM
Well, yeah they did. Scratch that.
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jmbay22 is not online. jmbay22
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18 Jun 2014 05:33 PM
I didn't even say half of this stuff. A NEW ONE WILL BE MADE
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18 Jun 2014 05:33 PM
op still hasn't responded

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jmbay22 is not online. jmbay22
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18 Jun 2014 05:33 PM
It was a US Halftrack
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jmbay22 is not online. jmbay22
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18 Jun 2014 05:34 PM
If they took Midway then they could establish Air Support over the Western part of North America *Mainly US*
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Cypraid is not online. Cypraid
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18 Jun 2014 05:34 PM
@jmbay
okay, remove half of this and it is still spoons-in-pants mentally disabled.
this is still a terrible idea.

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firefeind1 is not online. firefeind1
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18 Jun 2014 05:34 PM
wot.

-smf
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XTGNecro is not online. XTGNecro
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18 Jun 2014 05:35 PM
And what of the Western Front?
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Cypraid is not online. Cypraid
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18 Jun 2014 05:36 PM
@jmbay
okay, do you realize how massive the US is?
yeah, sure, their two engined G4M1s may reach the US
but that's not saying they would be torn apart by US air power.
and most likely, it would be a one way trip.

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