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Re: [RANT] ROBLOX supports unoriginal games

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Gybro is not online. Gybro
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17 Jun 2014 09:05 PM
It seems as if the ROBLOX team LIKES the idea of game "developers" (note the sarcasm) taking ideas from other games and using them on ROBLOX and being able to profit off of that.

It's like taking Halo, giving credit to them for the idea and adding a new weapon or better yet remove an old one. It's cheap and should not become well known.

Basing a game off of another is one thing, and I can respect that as long as it's at least 85% you/your team. Being able to COPY a game 85% their idea, use a different engine, get famous from it and profit on it and COMPARE it to other games [NXT GEN] is just not right, especially for something as weak as ROBLOX currently is.

I think it should be PAY to DEVELOP, that way we would not see bad games, unrestricted features such as user meshes and bigger decals, more moderation, and more importantly, more time to create new features and stop exploits.
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nobbers12345 is not online. nobbers12345
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17 Jun 2014 09:09 PM
Short rant.
I would argue they support the popular games, which happen to be copied from other games.

And I think what you are referring to is the Murder games. No need to hide it.

I don't understand what you mean by pay to develop. They give roblox studio out a s afree dev kit, and it would really infringe the creator's morals to restrict free playing and creating.

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Realizes is not online. Realizes
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17 Jun 2014 09:10 PM
You must be jealous, because you have to rant about other people being successful.

> Realizes < ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
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Gatlo is not online. Gatlo
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17 Jun 2014 09:11 PM
nice story m8
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Gybro is not online. Gybro
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17 Jun 2014 09:13 PM
I'm not only talking about murder games, there's blox hunt and such as well.

And why would I be jealous of succees that's legitimate? I would only be happy for the creator(s).
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nobbers12345 is not online. nobbers12345
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17 Jun 2014 09:14 PM
You also underestimate the difficulty of developing an entire engine. These are not easy decisions, because even though it seems they don't care, they do put us, the consumers, in mind. After that, it takes a long time to plan the additions and balance everything out BEFORE release.

Even with an indie developed game, they can flop terribly, and there is the issue of investment, the people developing make no money from paying x amount of money and putting x amount of hours into creation to make nothing in return.
How would making the game pay to develop increase moderation?



Give them props, making the same game, even across different engines is really hard. All three of them are well made.

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Gybro is not online. Gybro
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17 Jun 2014 09:17 PM
It would mean people would not be able to troll develop and copy games, which is what most people do. If someone was to copy s game in an environment like thos, it xould easily be picked out and deleted.

It would mean higher, more thought out, quality games due to paying to create.
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ZeOnyx is not online. ZeOnyx
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17 Jun 2014 09:18 PM
So basically you're saying people shouldn't be able to have creativity over what they make, especially if it has similarities to other games?

I suppose ROBLOX shouldn't exist because lego bricks do as well. This rant is stupid and childish, let people make what they want; and if you don't appreciate it then don't play it. It's that simple. I mean, if a game took alot of work to make, then yeah it deserves a bit of credit, keep in mind it's not just ROBLOX choosing, but the general community as well. A general community that's obviously confused about what it likes or wants in the first place, as shown by OP.

TL;DR - OP is a bundle of sticks :\
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nobbers12345 is not online. nobbers12345
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17 Jun 2014 09:22 PM
"It would mean higher, more thought out, quality games due to paying to create."

No it would not. It would simply mean someone spent money to screw up.
You are arguing semantics here, you have no proof that paying for something instantly improves quality.

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nobbers12345 is not online. nobbers12345
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17 Jun 2014 09:22 PM
As someone above said, your arguments are childish and you are not taking into consideration the rest of the community.

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gordonrox24 is not online. gordonrox24
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17 Jun 2014 09:22 PM
I think something that confuses me is when people think ROBLOX is weak.

ROBLOX isn't the small somewhat unknown game with mediocre player count and engagement that it was years ago. ROBLOX is booming, and growing rapidly, and the gaming community is taking notice.

For example, e27, a leading Asian technology resource recently said the following while talking about ROBLOX:

"Will 2014 be the year of Roblox amidst the worldwide gaming landscape that’s plastered with heavy hitters from Microsoft, Sony and Nintendo? Who knows, but it seems that the seemingly little company is gaining momentum with its push towards user-generated content."
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Gybro is not online. Gybro
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17 Jun 2014 09:23 PM
While I do agree that it is hard to have an original idea 100% of the time, copyig games seems a little ridiculous. I saw another thread about a team of developers who had their game stolen from them, every last part of it! Like lagio5 said, people on ROBLOX rather reverse engineering than actual originallity. Do remember, this is just an opinion.
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nobbers12345 is not online. nobbers12345
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17 Jun 2014 09:24 PM
That too, Gordon.
The roblox community is quite large, and has a big amount into the development process.
However, I don't think that was the main point he was making.

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nobbers12345 is not online. nobbers12345
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17 Jun 2014 09:25 PM
Your situation given is different than one taken from another engine.
The one who took the game literally put no effort into the creation of the game.

It took time to make those Gmod games, because the code for them was not just out there.

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theepicnessofdeath is not online. theepicnessofdeath
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17 Jun 2014 09:26 PM
Rant should be moved to rt. So that they can deal with them.
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gordonrox24 is not online. gordonrox24
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17 Jun 2014 09:28 PM
Yeah, so more on topic.

ROBLOX doesn't necessarily like things being 100% the same from another game to a game here. However, I don't think we've seen that. We have seen ideas, definitely inspired by other games, made their own. And that is a very different concept.

We love original concept games, however making an existing game your own, by putting your own ideas and creativity into it, is nearly equally as fun and impressive.
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Gybro is not online. Gybro
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17 Jun 2014 09:29 PM
@Gordon

I don't think ROBLOX is weak NORMALLY, I just don't count idiotic seven year olds, game stealers and online daters as real people, and sadly that is about 40% of what makes up ROBLOX.

I like ROBLOX, I think that it is a great starting point for game development. I just think that people are not very.. innovative.

Apocalypse Games = Innovative

The Mad Murderer = Not
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nobbers12345 is not online. nobbers12345
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17 Jun 2014 09:31 PM
1. Don't make up random statistics. You have earned no credibility by saying that
2. You are now changing your point in trying to defend yourself, don't try it, you've lost. The point was not that there was no innovation, the point was that ROBLOX supports unoriginal games.

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Gybro is not online. Gybro
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17 Jun 2014 09:35 PM
Lost? Defending?

Quit trying to derail the thread. There is no flame war present to lose, and I'm not defending myself from anyone.
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nobbers12345 is not online. nobbers12345
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17 Jun 2014 09:36 PM
Whether you think so or not, we are having a debate, a civil argument.
Changing your argument ruins credibility for further points.

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Gybro is not online. Gybro
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17 Jun 2014 09:40 PM
So adding a new word to describe how I feel about games and developers is changing the topic of the thread. No.

If you keep posting things that are off topic, you might as well just leave the thread.
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nobbers12345 is not online. nobbers12345
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17 Jun 2014 09:41 PM
I didn't say it changed the topic, your arguments are just straying from said topic.

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ZeOnyx is not online. ZeOnyx
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17 Jun 2014 09:43 PM
@ Gybro
@ Nobbers

You both are two intelligent people, who are having a debate. I don't think arguing whose more relevant is going to get you anywhere, and I think you should both come to a conclusion before both of you shrink into just noise machines.

That's just a little packet of my seasoning in you two's ramen though, I'm not going to get two embedded in the argument.
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Gybro is not online. Gybro
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17 Jun 2014 09:44 PM
Why is no one else posting? This thread topic is dead already? Proposterous.
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nobbers12345 is not online. nobbers12345
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17 Jun 2014 09:45 PM
> posted that question 1 minute after last reply

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