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Re: How Can the Clan World Improve? A Thought Session

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Preadeator123 is not online. Preadeator123
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16 Jun 2014 11:11 PM
(Will be tl;dr near bottom)

First off, I'm reposting this under a different title because the title "Why the Clan World is Deteriorating" strikes a very repetitive tone and I'm well-aware you are all tired hearing about people trying to "make a different or change"
You can find the original thread here: http://www.roblox.com/Forum/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=135304735


This thread was created in order for me to express my ideas to the community of C&G, despite how pathetic most of you are. I welcome critique on my ideas and support, but keep in mind the purpose for this thread.

Many people say the clan world is deteriorating. Which is obvious, but why?

It's all the obsession, the "hype" with the small powerclans who strive to be amazing and incredible and all that. It's all about VAK and FC and SC, and all flame about TD, JC, GG. On the forums.

The forums, especially C&G. Which leads to the first conclusion. Part of why the clan world is deteriorating is because of the lack of in-depth, deep conversations on the forums. It's all, "UMG SPEEDHAX" or "VAK vs FC lez go go go". C&G in particular lacks deep threads. Threads that express new clan ideas, something different and interesting.

Many argue that from the beginning, the Clans and Guilds were meant for a place to throw immaturity and just start pointless arguments. Have anyone ever stopped joining in, stepped back, and had a look? Truth is, many of you are so involved in foruming that you let words escape your tongue without thinking. "It's you people who make C&G boring" or "you can't change us go back to lmad".

Why can't C&G start having REAL conversations? Ones that don't mock clans, but actually analyze them and offer professional-like critique? Ones that aren't about A'A or Final Battles, but instead about trying to reach an end that both people would agree with. Ones that aren't flame bait or HAIL SQUID or HAIL FLAMMUS11, but instead, about relations with allies and fresh innovations? I'll leave you at that.

Another reason is that clans themselves are starting to go sideways. The once strong, disciplined community of one clan turns into a disorganized, chaotic mess under a poorly inexperienced leader. Two clans who were once supportive allies close together were turned into enemies over a small, unimportant conflict, and into a war that destroyed both.

Why must it be all about "violation of war laws" and "final battles" and "unfair bases"? Why can't HRs ACTUALLY SPEND TIME with oppositions, working out an agreeable rules of war list? Why can't one clan just settle down and accept defeat with heads held up, instead of putting their pride always ahead of them? Why can't one side stop complaining about the unfair base anywhere they can, and instead just curtly message the creator of the place and do suggestions?

And now, one of the biggest reasons.

The clan world is too revolved around skill.

The powerclans today, those who strike up like fire everywhere, those so-called "prestigious clans", the truth is that they look for skill. Skill. The community have their arms wrapped around that word, refusing to look to anything else. So when a clan like Sleet Clan comes along, led by a controversial leader, the community refuses to look at it. Why? Well, maybe it's because of Prag's failures in the past, but at least he admitted to it. Maybe the REAL reason why is that the community doesn't like clans based on "family, cooperation, community" popping up. Instead, you are all focused on one virtue.

Whatever happened to those great groups? Ones who boast a supportive, caring community inside, that aren't too nice but aren't unforgiving? Whatever happened to the virtues of trying to be fair? Cooperation, working with one another in a serious matter?

Discipline. Those so-called new generation clans, those with more members than powerclans, think they know: strictness and discipline, like VAK's, is just too much for some to handle. The truth is, discipline is a major factor we've been missing. Discipline is what forms inexperienced soldiers to soldiers who are flexible, can work with others, aren't so immature and whining all the time. What about FC, you may ask. They, though not the most mature group of people, do actually have sense, and revolve around a great community of people.

So these are the reasons. PLEASE keep in mind that it is all from my perspective. Remind yourself of the purpose. I wrote this in mind that some of you will agree, some of you will not, but I wanted to share my idea with the community in hope that it inspires some of you for a change.

Thanks for taking your time to read this...if you did.

TL;DR, or people who say "FIRST": Just read the thing. I took time working on it, I'm too tired to write a tl;dr, not lazy. You may just learn something.

A final note:

I never wrote this to spark a "huge change in the clan world." I didn't write this to "change C&G's lifestyle."

I wrote this because I thought that I can inspire some of the more mature people in the clan world, to encourage them to change something, to make things a little better.

"How many times has it changed anything?" You're right, these threads really don't change alot. But I'm sure that they have the power to change someone's thinking for clans.

I know VERY WELL about the community always complaining. Why? They give up hope in these threads. They believe they are so deep in the mud, they can't get out and eventually accept their way of life.

I never asked you to change, but nor did I ask you to keep ignoring these ideas.

Thank you for taking time to read this...if you did.
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Shadymathers is not online. Shadymathers
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16 Jun 2014 11:12 PM
FIRSTTTTTTTTTTTT
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Preadeator123 is not online. Preadeator123
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16 Jun 2014 11:15 PM
I well understand many of you are ready to disagree with me, or more likely to post "tl;dr" or "wordwall", but I did say there was a TL;DR version and that you might learn something or be inspired. (of course, never asking you to completely switch mindsets or feel that I'm forcing you to do something)
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Preadeator123 is not online. Preadeator123
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16 Jun 2014 11:19 PM
Perhaps the Clan World is at a peak right now, or it just may have ups and downs in it's path. The VAK and FC war is pretty much underway, and I just read another thread going against the topic of the "clan world falling apart", so I wanted to reintroduce this old thread
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flyakam is not online. flyakam
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16 Jun 2014 11:23 PM
RIP C&G. You were the best.
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Patreiot is not online. Patreiot
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16 Jun 2014 11:25 PM
The clan world is too unmoderated. What happens when you leave a community without order? You get anarchy. This is excatly what CnG is in terms of anarchy. Players who wish to engage in bad manners flock to this forum which is unmoderated. This allows illmanneres to freely do with what the please.

All this forum needs is an active moderator to watch over and promote order in this chaos.
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flyakam is not online. flyakam
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16 Jun 2014 11:26 PM
I agree with you, OP. A genius could post a thread. Then the regular C&G community comes in and says, "lol scrub," "oder," "autism 101," etc.
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LegendSoul12 is not online. LegendSoul12
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16 Jun 2014 11:30 PM
Nice.
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DEMONSLAVES is not online. DEMONSLAVES
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16 Jun 2014 11:30 PM
Agreed on all of this. Toni tried to do this before he left, but it failed. Everyone is based around OMG FLAMUSS IS SO BOOTIFUL111. Really, come on. NOTHING too do with clans there. Start actually C&Ging.
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Preadeator123 is not online. Preadeator123
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16 Jun 2014 11:43 PM
Thank you for the responses, I might add on to this tomorrow.
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robloxianCEO is not online. robloxianCEO
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16 Jun 2014 11:46 PM
tl;dr
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Preadeator123 is not online. Preadeator123
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17 Jun 2014 07:55 PM
Bump.
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Preadeator123 is not online. Preadeator123
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17 Jun 2014 08:07 PM
B2
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Preadeator123 is not online. Preadeator123
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17 Jun 2014 10:08 PM
Bump for night c&gers
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xerland2 is not online. xerland2
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17 Jun 2014 10:12 PM
because we're a bunch of teenagers
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TimeIock is not online. TimeIock
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17 Jun 2014 10:13 PM
Only thing I cared to read was the paragraph regarding everyone being wrapped around "skill".

Well, being wrapped around "family" sure as hell doesn't win wars. Which is what all clans strive to do every once in a while.

Sure, we can throw a few words in there to take some weight from skill. If anything, it would be "teamwork, uniformity, and pride". And of course, a lot of clans are doing this already.

You gave a good swing with this thread, but people are already doing this kind of stuff. We need more.. innovative? Ideas.
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Preadeator123 is not online. Preadeator123
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17 Jun 2014 10:18 PM
Skill is still a major factor, obviously, but a little while ago was when clans were overly obsessed with it. Not all right now are as I'm aware due to recent threads.

Being a teenager is not an excuse lol
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Preadeator123 is not online. Preadeator123
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18 Jun 2014 09:37 PM
Day 3.
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Preadeator123 is not online. Preadeator123
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20 Jun 2014 01:25 PM
Bump of wut.
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Preadeator123 is not online. Preadeator123
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15 Dec 2014 06:35 PM
Jesus

I made this

Woah
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VaIas is not online. VaIas
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15 Dec 2014 06:42 PM
I agree with this a lot. So many groups focus primarily on getting only skilled members, not trying to teach people to be better, teach immature people, how to become good, mature soldiers.

Plus, everyone who seems to be skilled, are immature or trolls lately.
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Pen54321 is not online. Pen54321
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15 Dec 2014 06:43 PM
Predator, want to see my unique clan idea?
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Slayer9116 is not online. Slayer9116
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15 Dec 2014 06:46 PM
clans are dying because the system we use is old and no longer interesting to a lot of people
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Pen54321 is not online. Pen54321
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15 Dec 2014 06:47 PM
http://www.roblox.com/Forum/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=151725373

Is this a good clan idea?
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Preadeator123 is not online. Preadeator123
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15 Dec 2014 07:00 PM
It is quite good.

Keep in mind I made this a while ago

I don't really like some things I said before
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