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BennehBear is not online. BennehBear
Joined: 18 Jul 2013
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14 Jun 2014 10:09 PM
***Please read this, I need your input - if you are really too lazy, just go to the bottom and read the TL;DR***

Amano and I are working on, well, he is working more on it physically but I am trying to put it together.

So all of you know the HHCL Network and how there are places where you can view stats? Well, in my opinion, as the league grows larger and larger, the statkeeping is getting harder and MUCH, MUCH LONGER. It takes me about an hour a night now to input stats and update everything on both sites.

I'd very much like to get rid of the LeagueLineup site in place of a new statistical way of things. To do this, I want some type of system that officials can use to keep track of stats.

Only a list of people will have access to EDIT the stats, everyone else will be able to just look at it. If we can't do that, just make it an edit version and we will only let officials have it. The list of people should be able to be changed often so we can change refs who are doing bad or add new ones during the season.

This system will also make stat-keeping MUCH easier, as it will allow for games to move faster instead of having to type things up after every game. We can just hit a + or - button under a category, select a player from a list or type in a case-sensitive name to keep track of stats per person by season.

At the end of the game, the official should be able to upload it to a system like the HHCL Network and it should register into stats.

I want to talk to Baumz or something about this, not just to copy his idea for the heck of it, but I really think that games would move smoother and it would cut my time to about 15 minutes for updating all the stuff that night.

Maybe include a place to have game reports, record shots on goal, period by period scoring, power plays or something.
I don't know, it's all a work in progress, but I would really like to have this for me AND for those who are constantly keeping track of their progress in the RHL. It would also make it more efficient, because an official can quickly stay on the same window, have a transparent screen when they open the control center, hit a quick "+" on the save or SOG for a player or something.

Sadly, since the league is not SCRIPTED, we can't just have the system keep stats FOR us, but I still think this would be very cool and cut game lengths down about 5-10 minutes. It's also less frustrating for me because I don't have to have 30 sticky note apps open on my computer and bugging me at the time. I can just upload it to the network and it can read it for you all to take a quick visit to and then we can be done with it. At the end of the season, we can somehow save it all and name it like "Season ## Regular Season", then make one for the postseason if we want or something.

I doubt most of this can happen, but I would LOVE it if one of you scripting professionals can do this. I will offer up all of my virtual currency really, I don't really care.

TL;DR: In short term, I want to make a system like Baumz's that keeps track of stats. Sadly, since our league is not a scripted league, we can't have it keep stats for us, but an interface where we can just click + or - will make it easier, allow us to keep more categories for stats, and make the officials' jobs easier (especially mine, saying that I have to take about an hour updating everything every night, including about 30-40 minutes for nothing BUT stats for each game). It would also bring us back down to one site :) If you are good at scripting and think you can do this for me (I will give all of my virtual currency, which isn't much but still, I don't care what it takes) please contact me ASAP.

Thanks guys.

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deathrange07 is not online. deathrange07
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14 Jun 2014 10:15 PM
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CheeseyMacral is not online. CheeseyMacral
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14 Jun 2014 10:21 PM
Or you can do what death does and track the stats of games you ref by putting them on the stats entry window as the game is occurring lol.

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BennehBear is not online. BennehBear
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14 Jun 2014 10:25 PM
But people never know where to find stats and doing it this way is much more convenient.

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CheeseyMacral is not online. CheeseyMacral
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14 Jun 2014 10:28 PM
>But people never know where to find stats and doing it this way is much more convenient.

oh wow it's so hard to look at the group desc and see the website link

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HoboFromChicago is not online. HoboFromChicago
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14 Jun 2014 10:28 PM
This idea does sound cool.

But It sounds hard.

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BMLGUY is not online. BMLGUY
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14 Jun 2014 10:29 PM
Ask cap.

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BennehBear is not online. BennehBear
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14 Jun 2014 10:35 PM
@Cheesey
People visit my profile all the time for games and stuff.
If we had this, all you would have to look at is the title and the play button.

People often do not know where to go because it says "SCHEDULE/STATS" and it directs them to the standings page, and they don't know they have to click offensive leaders or goalie leaders.

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deathrange07 is not online. deathrange07
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15 Jun 2014 11:13 AM
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nomer4mvp is not online. nomer4mvp
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15 Jun 2014 11:14 AM
or you could let nomer script you a data storage and retrieval GUI
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FIRECAKE is not online. FIRECAKE
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15 Jun 2014 11:19 AM
you would have to consolidate everything to one place and use persistent data because there is currently no data sharing between games
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nomer4mvp is not online. nomer4mvp
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15 Jun 2014 11:20 AM
all rhl plays in 1 place, but use arena selector to load a skaner or enterprise etc.
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FIRECAKE is not online. FIRECAKE
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15 Jun 2014 12:04 PM
do they do that currently or are you proposing they do that?

if you could share data between servers that are all under the same game (that new feature they added where you could theoretically have hundreds of games under the same game web) then you could easily have 1 place set up that could teleport to different arenas depending on the home team.

then all of the data could be stored in the original place

just speculation though, i don't know how the new multi-game feature works entirely
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MarioKartAddict is not online. MarioKartAddict
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15 Jun 2014 12:05 PM
I could work with someone to do that
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BennehBear is not online. BennehBear
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15 Jun 2014 12:06 PM
Okay I can do that.

The universe update makes it so that you have to go to the lobby before picking a server. You can't really put other people's games in a universe, I might be wrong though I'm not sure. Then you go to the lobby, choose a place and it will bring you there.

I could do that for you Fire if you want.

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FIRECAKE is not online. FIRECAKE
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15 Jun 2014 12:22 PM
here is what i am thinking of:

centralized data storage in the initial game

in that game you could have GUIs featuring all the statistics that you keep track of, big leader boards to show the current league leaders, etc, as well as teleporters that would take you to any arena that you wanted to go to

from those arenas the referees would have a HUD that allowed them to watch the game while also hitting the +/- buttons like you wanted in order to adjust statistics

the updated statistics would be sent to the centralized data storage and updated automatically after being changed

if that's possible, then it's the easiest day to do what you want to do
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FIRECAKE is not online. FIRECAKE
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15 Jun 2014 12:23 PM
but that would require you to have all of the owners send you their stadiums so that you could include them in the single game universe
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BennehBear is not online. BennehBear
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15 Jun 2014 12:31 PM
I am thinking about just kicking out of all the custom arenas and just making like 5 neutral ones, and including those.

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BMLGUY is not online. BMLGUY
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15 Jun 2014 12:34 PM
You can use my neutral arena ben :)

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BennehBear is not online. BennehBear
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15 Jun 2014 01:09 PM
I will make a game teleporter then.

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