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Jabalah is not online. Jabalah
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stomache is not online. stomache
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14 Jun 2014 08:30 AM
no its not

pls stop pls stop pls stop

israel is one of the freest and most democratic states in the middle east
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petorparrot is not online. petorparrot
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14 Jun 2014 08:30 AM
im from the usa and i dont even know anymore ._.

Help, I stepped on my eyes!
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baka is not online. baka
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14 Jun 2014 08:31 AM
this is going to be uncivil anyways so just to add to it, how about we discuss palestine
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andre200 is not online. andre200
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14 Jun 2014 08:31 AM
bribed

banging my head on poles since 2007 | add 20k posts | vunro, add 18k posts
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Caketrooper is not online. Caketrooper
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14 Jun 2014 08:32 AM
probably to get a check and balance against the arabs or something

eh
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stomache is not online. stomache
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14 Jun 2014 08:32 AM
@cake

"probably to get a check and balance against the arabs or something"

waht
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Caketrooper is not online. Caketrooper
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14 Jun 2014 08:36 AM
i dont think the jewish state experiences anything so close like shia on sunni conflicts dont you? im no expert, professor brob

seems like a more stable ally when the general region had soviet-supported regimes during the cold war
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Borowng is not online. Borowng
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14 Jun 2014 08:38 AM
"israel is one of the freest and most democratic states in the middle east"

There's not much competition is there.
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stomache is not online. stomache
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14 Jun 2014 08:39 AM
"i dont think the jewish state experiences anything so close like shia on sunni conflicts dont you? im no expert, professor brob"

only iraq,syria and lebanon experience shia sunni conflicts

"seems like a more stable ally"

yes i agree israel is a better ally than most arab states

"when the general region had soviet-supported regimes during the cold war"

they werent pro soviet until the US started backing israel
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Jabalah is not online. Jabalah
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baka is not online. baka
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14 Jun 2014 08:42 AM
@cake
to be fair the US wasn't exactly *improving* the political climate in the middle east during the cold war either
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Borowng is not online. Borowng
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14 Jun 2014 08:42 AM
Not to mention Israel has the Samson option even though they deny having nukes.
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stomache is not online. stomache
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14 Jun 2014 08:42 AM
@borowng

the palestinian authority and lebanon can be count as competition
jordan has some freedom but is nothing compare to israel

@petrikov

"israeli people torture palestinians and strip them off civil rights and human rights etc. etc."

israel treats palestinians better than most arab states

have u ever heard of arab israelis

"they wont recognize a palestinian state"

because the palestinians wont accept their demands

"and continues settlement which hinders a future creation of a palestinian country"

yes i agree we must stop the settlements

"they TORTURE NATIVE INHABITANTS THERE."

the jews ARE the native inhabitants of israel
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Caketrooper is not online. Caketrooper
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14 Jun 2014 08:46 AM
@baka

the cold war didn't improve anything politically speaking in general imo

OH and petrikov i'm kind of leaning towards br0b's view of the matter
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Borowng is not online. Borowng
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14 Jun 2014 08:48 AM
Israel has rights to defend itself against Persian backed terrorists, but the Samson option of just nuking everything is crazy.
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14 Jun 2014 08:52 AM
I don't feel sorry for the terrorists at all once you start firing rockets at innocents you lose your human rights.
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baka is not online. baka
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14 Jun 2014 08:54 AM
@stomache
Woooah, woah. the jews claimed the land that's now Israel to be their ancestral homeland, but whether that's true or not (I assume it is) they're hardly THE native inhabitants. there was more than one group living there before the region was declared to be Israel, including the Palestinians.
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Borowng is not online. Borowng
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14 Jun 2014 08:54 AM
There is never justification for terrorism even if the other side does bad stuff.
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OfficialSlimShady is not online. OfficialSlimShady
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14 Jun 2014 08:55 AM
Israel is making the U.S to do it (btw Obama is a wussy) for chemical weapons
and bombs to light in Palestine (happens every week)
also for attacks here
btw I think 9/11 was kinda done by israel

btw Israel is the #1 most racial state in the world
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