Jabalah
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stomache
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| 14 Jun 2014 08:30 AM |
no its not
pls stop pls stop pls stop
israel is one of the freest and most democratic states in the middle east |
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| 14 Jun 2014 08:30 AM |
im from the usa and i dont even know anymore ._.
Help, I stepped on my eyes! |
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baka
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| 14 Jun 2014 08:31 AM |
| this is going to be uncivil anyways so just to add to it, how about we discuss palestine |
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andre200
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| 14 Jun 2014 08:31 AM |
bribed
banging my head on poles since 2007 | add 20k posts | vunro, add 18k posts |
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| 14 Jun 2014 08:32 AM |
probably to get a check and balance against the arabs or something
eh |
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stomache
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| 14 Jun 2014 08:32 AM |
@cake
"probably to get a check and balance against the arabs or something"
waht |
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| 14 Jun 2014 08:36 AM |
i dont think the jewish state experiences anything so close like shia on sunni conflicts dont you? im no expert, professor brob
seems like a more stable ally when the general region had soviet-supported regimes during the cold war |
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Jabalah
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Borowng
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| 14 Jun 2014 08:38 AM |
"israel is one of the freest and most democratic states in the middle east"
There's not much competition is there. |
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stomache
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| 14 Jun 2014 08:39 AM |
"i dont think the jewish state experiences anything so close like shia on sunni conflicts dont you? im no expert, professor brob"
only iraq,syria and lebanon experience shia sunni conflicts
"seems like a more stable ally"
yes i agree israel is a better ally than most arab states
"when the general region had soviet-supported regimes during the cold war"
they werent pro soviet until the US started backing israel |
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Jabalah
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baka
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| 14 Jun 2014 08:42 AM |
@cake to be fair the US wasn't exactly *improving* the political climate in the middle east during the cold war either |
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Borowng
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| 14 Jun 2014 08:42 AM |
| Not to mention Israel has the Samson option even though they deny having nukes. |
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stomache
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| 14 Jun 2014 08:42 AM |
@borowng
the palestinian authority and lebanon can be count as competition jordan has some freedom but is nothing compare to israel
@petrikov
"israeli people torture palestinians and strip them off civil rights and human rights etc. etc."
israel treats palestinians better than most arab states
have u ever heard of arab israelis
"they wont recognize a palestinian state"
because the palestinians wont accept their demands
"and continues settlement which hinders a future creation of a palestinian country"
yes i agree we must stop the settlements
"they TORTURE NATIVE INHABITANTS THERE."
the jews ARE the native inhabitants of israel |
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| 14 Jun 2014 08:46 AM |
@baka
the cold war didn't improve anything politically speaking in general imo
OH and petrikov i'm kind of leaning towards br0b's view of the matter |
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Jabalah
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Borowng
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| 14 Jun 2014 08:48 AM |
| Israel has rights to defend itself against Persian backed terrorists, but the Samson option of just nuking everything is crazy. |
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Jabalah
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Borowng
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| 14 Jun 2014 08:52 AM |
| I don't feel sorry for the terrorists at all once you start firing rockets at innocents you lose your human rights. |
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Jabalah
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Jabalah
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baka
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| 14 Jun 2014 08:54 AM |
@stomache Woooah, woah. the jews claimed the land that's now Israel to be their ancestral homeland, but whether that's true or not (I assume it is) they're hardly THE native inhabitants. there was more than one group living there before the region was declared to be Israel, including the Palestinians.
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Borowng
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| 14 Jun 2014 08:54 AM |
| There is never justification for terrorism even if the other side does bad stuff. |
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| 14 Jun 2014 08:55 AM |
Israel is making the U.S to do it (btw Obama is a wussy) for chemical weapons and bombs to light in Palestine (happens every week) also for attacks here btw I think 9/11 was kinda done by israel
btw Israel is the #1 most racial state in the world |
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