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Re: I am ashamed of my state colorado

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ShawnGalamer is not online. ShawnGalamer
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10 Jun 2014 07:26 AM
My state has legal late aboretion. Which is a disgrace to human rights. Abortin is murder and "pro-choicers" do not understand the simple fact that murder is not good lol. I am an atheist and i think people who support abortin are in-fact. Misinformed or are not grateful to be breathing.


(this fits into ot considering its off topic thank you xD)

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ShawnGalamer is not online. ShawnGalamer
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10 Jun 2014 07:27 AM
Had to spell abortien wrong because its a filtered word XD
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TheKentuckian is not online. TheKentuckian
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10 Jun 2014 08:00 AM
While I am strongly against abortien, I look at it the same way as guns. People will still get them. Also, when people still get them, they will use methods that are more dangerous and could kill the mother too, so making it illegal would just have an even more harmful effect.
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sonicschall is not online. sonicschall
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10 Jun 2014 08:13 AM
I'm not quite sure whether I should take you seriously, so I'm not going to criticize your opinion.
I, however think that abortiens aren't bad - especially if you're just not ready to have a baby. Would you rather have a baby grow up around loving people or a family that can barely afford to feed their offspring? If you choose the latter, you are royally messed in the head.
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TheKentuckian is not online. TheKentuckian
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10 Jun 2014 08:15 AM
I'm not quite sure whether I should take you seriously, so I'm not going to criticize your opinion.
I, however think that abortiens aren't bad - especially if you're just not ready to have a baby. Would you rather have a baby grow up around loving people or a family that can barely afford to feed their offspring? If you choose the latter, you are royally messed in the head.
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sonicschall is not online. sonicschall
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10 Jun 2014 08:19 AM
Adoption is an alternative too.
But, consider this: If a doctor diagnoses your child (while it is still a fetus) with something like down syndrome or any other mental/physical disease that would leave it disabled, would you rather abort it or put it up for adoption?
The problem with adoption is that not everyone wants to adopt a kid, and most people who do adopt kids adopt healthy kids.
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TheKentuckian is not online. TheKentuckian
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10 Jun 2014 08:32 AM
Adoption is an alternative too.
But, consider this: If a doctor diagnoses your child (while it is still a fetus) with something like down syndrome or any other mental/physical disease that would leave it disabled, would you rather abort it or put it up for adoption?
The problem with adoption is that not everyone wants to adopt a kid, and most people who do adopt kids adopt healthy kids.
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There are many organizations that help people with autism, downs syndrome, etc to have a good life. Instead of being discriminatory and cheating it out of a life, why not allow it to have a life and to develop. About 20% of all people with Downs syndrome, and rising, do paid work. They can become productive members of society, and probably take jobs that other people wouldn't want (For example, manual labor).

I'm not saying it should be illegal, but it is certainly morally wrong.
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Exonical is not online. Exonical
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10 Jun 2014 09:11 AM
What exactly do you mean by 'late aboretion'?

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Gordielad is not online. Gordielad
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10 Jun 2014 09:24 AM
I support all forms of aboretion since the baby does not have a body of its own until it leaves the mothers body and is technically part of the mothers body at the time in the wooooomb, so therefore the mother should make the choice whether she wants to have a baby or not.


this is just my opinion though...
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JayyxC is not online. JayyxC
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10 Jun 2014 12:54 PM
So if a woman gets s3xually abused, and becomes pr3gnant, she has to have the baby? That's just wicked.
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xXRoxyXx123 is not online. xXRoxyXx123
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10 Jun 2014 03:44 PM
It's murder, even if she is assaulted, she can give her baby up, not kill it. That's just horrible.
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DarakkenValskovycz is not online. DarakkenValskovycz
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10 Jun 2014 03:59 PM
The purpose of reproduction is to create offspring, as all microrganisms and animals do. If you are to have reproduction but without intentions of creating a child, then prepare yourself and make sure you have something that will stop it. Aborton is wrong; you need to take the risks if you want to have 'fun'.
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jamesfelicia is not online. jamesfelicia
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10 Jun 2014 04:00 PM
i am proud of my state colorado
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xSherra is not online. xSherra
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10 Jun 2014 04:03 PM
It's not even a disgrace. It can't even really be considered homicide, also, and they usually only do it before a specific trimester because at that point in time, the fetus can not be considered as really, alive... yet. Either way, it should be a women's choice. There are too many people on the planet already, and adoption is not always the solution.

Ta.
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JayyxC is not online. JayyxC
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10 Jun 2014 04:07 PM
This isn't something worth arguing over, it's the parents choice, the baby isn't alive yet. I'm fine with it, less walmart shoppers, gang bangers, and stupid people.
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LaFeministe is not online. LaFeministe
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10 Jun 2014 04:31 PM
Yeah, no. It's not murder.


A foetus is not a sentient thing. It is physically dependent on another human BEING. It has no identifiable personhood.


Forcing a person to carry a foetus is more of a disgrace to human rights than terminating a pr.gn.ncy. It violates their right to bodily autonomy, something that trumps the rights of an unborn foetus.

That's why you are not forced to donate an organ to someone in need of it; your right to bodily autonomy is prioritized before their right to life. That's just how it goes.
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JayyxC is not online. JayyxC
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10 Jun 2014 04:56 PM
Conservatives are the only reason we're still arguing about arbitrary things like this.
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JayyxC is not online. JayyxC
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10 Jun 2014 04:58 PM
*I meant frivolous
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pdog417 is not online. pdog417
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10 Jun 2014 06:17 PM
If you're not ready to have a baby then don't have one
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JayyxC is not online. JayyxC
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10 Jun 2014 06:18 PM
BC can fail, you know.
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LaFeministe is not online. LaFeministe
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10 Jun 2014 06:18 PM
FYI, adoption isn't an alternative to pr.gn.ncy, it's an alternative to parenting.
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jplynn is not online. jplynn
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10 Jun 2014 06:39 PM
I tend not to get involved in this kind of talk, but how about I ask it this way.

If you went back in time and prevented somebody you knew from being born would it be considered murder? If not then what?
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LaFeministe is not online. LaFeministe
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10 Jun 2014 06:58 PM
"If you went back in time and prevented somebody you knew from being born would it be considered murder? If not then what?"


If I prevented them form being born? No, it wouldn't be murder.
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jplynn is not online. jplynn
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10 Jun 2014 07:03 PM
Then what would it be?
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LaFeministe is not online. LaFeministe
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10 Jun 2014 07:15 PM
.. Preventing a pr.gn.ncy?
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