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Re: Always been curious how Vak can survive without a leader

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FireSpirit is not online. FireSpirit
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09 Jun 2014 02:31 AM
It is essentially surviving on an unending stream of hype surrounding it's supposed/assumed selectivity

Whether it is or isn't selective, I cannot say
Never really gave it more thought than as a good raiding location
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Warzynski is not online. Warzynski
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09 Jun 2014 02:43 AM
If you cut them off from war, give it about a year before their internal structuring starts to crumble.
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Warzynski is not online. Warzynski
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09 Jun 2014 02:45 AM
TGI made the mistake of giving them what they wanted. We basically jumpstarted an old car.
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Warzynski is not online. Warzynski
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09 Jun 2014 02:48 AM
Then RAT went to war with them and gave them another boost, now its Frost Clan.


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Shiverless is not online. Shiverless
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09 Jun 2014 02:49 AM
it's ran through a high com idk if he talks with them tho
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Jammintoad is online. Jammintoad
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09 Jun 2014 02:49 AM
>Tries to define VAK's skill
>admits never gave much though about it anyway

@other

we plan on winning
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Warzynski is not online. Warzynski
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09 Jun 2014 02:50 AM
Then you have the generals who basically run everything with Vaktus just as a figure head.
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romuluz is not online. romuluz
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09 Jun 2014 02:50 AM
War, no offense but they went almost a whole year without war before TGI.

They survived quite efficiently although they were weaker.


But as for the lack of leadership, VAK is ran by some top notch HRs.

Keeps the group going.
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Jammintoad is online. Jammintoad
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09 Jun 2014 02:50 AM
And yes, Vaktus talking to his HICOM.

-.-
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xDaBubs is not online. xDaBubs
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09 Jun 2014 02:51 AM
"But as for the lack of leadership, VAK is ran by some top notch HRs."

"top notch HRs."



lolno
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Warzynski is not online. Warzynski
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09 Jun 2014 02:53 AM
Meh, what do I care.

A year. Two years. 10 years. All it takes is suffocation and isolation and eventually it'll crumble.
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romuluz is not online. romuluz
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09 Jun 2014 03:05 AM
@xDa: While you may have a different opinion there, you cannot deny that they've managed to keep the group active without their leader in quite an organized manner, whereas most other clans would've fallen in a similar situation.

So, while you may not agree with me you at least have to give them SOME credit for that.

Also, another thing I just thought of is that the fact that it takes so long for people to even get into the clan may make them more committed to it, not wanting their time getting into the clan to go to waste.
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xDaBubs is not online. xDaBubs
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09 Jun 2014 03:15 AM
the group remains alive because of an image it has developed over many years


the image is that they are the "true bad guys" of roblox and are "powerful"

newbags hear about VAK and then believe this image, which prompts them to want to join it



then all their officers have to do is stand around and act important while giving orders along the lines of "dont talk or ill exile u"


VAK was dead for an entire year until TGI warred them out of boredom, they can not survive without fresh streams of newbag VAC joining just because they believe in the false image that VAK is actually good
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romuluz is not online. romuluz
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09 Jun 2014 03:23 AM
Ok well I can see you taking a bias stance now and not wanting to give the HR's ANY credit whatsoever, although, yes, your first point plays a role as to why so many people want to join it, but does not play a role into activity.

A clan without a leader is not a clan.
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xDaBubs is not online. xDaBubs
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09 Jun 2014 03:36 AM
old HRs were better, they're all gone now though
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romuluz is not online. romuluz
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09 Jun 2014 03:43 AM
I completely agree with you however that does not automatically make these hr's trash.

Again, while you may not like them, you again HAVE TO give them credit for keeping the clan upright as that is a fact not a matter of opinion.

Or you don't, this isn't North Korea or anything. You'll just be refuting a pure fact and will look rather stuborn.
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