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Re: [SL] Leadership.

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EmperorJosh is not online. EmperorJosh
Joined: 10 Mar 2014
Total Posts: 2188
08 Jun 2014 02:53 PM
I gave SL to Hanno while I finished exams and got my activity back up. Now that it is, Hanno is refusing to return leadership to me. Hanno agreed, when I gave it to him, that he would give it back if I became active again.

SL, show your opinion here.
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RevolutionRebuilt is not online. RevolutionRebuilt
Joined: 11 Mar 2011
Total Posts: 18
08 Jun 2014 02:55 PM
I dont want my leader to be a liar Give it back hanno! HAIL SL!
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Govand343 is not online. Govand343
Joined: 13 Apr 2011
Total Posts: 3492
08 Jun 2014 02:55 PM
selfish hanno

Appear weak when you are strong, and strong when you are weak. - Add 5.2k
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RisingCrisis400 is not online. RisingCrisis400
Joined: 05 Feb 2014
Total Posts: 583
08 Jun 2014 02:55 PM
#RebellionStartsHere
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MortuusUltricies is not online. MortuusUltricies
Joined: 23 Aug 2012
Total Posts: 11
08 Jun 2014 02:55 PM
He is not giving it back due to you bribing people to vote for you in the reelection. (I.E Me, which failed)
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XtornadoX456 is not online. XtornadoX456
Joined: 24 Dec 2012
Total Posts: 17
08 Jun 2014 02:58 PM
In my opinion, both of you are great leaders. You've been the leader of SL for quite a while. I remember when you were off to somewhere and Hanno took control of it. He gave it back to you so why wont he now?
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DeathOfTheSaint is not online. DeathOfTheSaint
Joined: 25 Jun 2013
Total Posts: 12
08 Jun 2014 02:59 PM
For crying out loud, you said you resigned. Hanno is a more understanding leader and doesn't mind us voicing our opinions, he listens to them which is something you don't until High Ranks start leaving. Hanno is more intouch with High Ranks in general including myself.

I say, leave it with Hanno for a little longer and then vote, Hanno hasn't had enough time to express his leadership skills.

~ DeathOfTheSaint [Major]
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Shiverless is not online. Shiverless
Joined: 27 Oct 2012
Total Posts: 13425
08 Jun 2014 02:59 PM
you've changed the leader a lot but you seem like a nice guy so support
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krazykid8008 is not online. krazykid8008
Joined: 27 Dec 2012
Total Posts: 12
08 Jun 2014 03:03 PM
Ok, first mort, shut up, you know nothing about SL. Fact is your still new Here. Second, hanno isnt the old hanno I knew. third, only reason why hanno is refusing because he's different B. Your trying to turn SL into VAC, C. Desire is a 12 year old who always wants to have power.
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Scorchio is not online. Scorchio
Joined: 25 Jun 2007
Total Posts: 1711
08 Jun 2014 03:03 PM
I know for a fact that Josh is the rightful leader. Once Hanno took over, SL's activity fell. Hanno wouldn't stand by us when SS hacked Covert. Josh would have. We fully support Josh in this endeavor. As such, we've removed Slashing Legion from our alliances. Josh may have lied and screwed up some, but he did so much for you.
As for Hanno, his judgement fell short of what a leader should've done when Covert was hacked.
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Scorchio is not online. Scorchio
Joined: 25 Jun 2007
Total Posts: 1711
08 Jun 2014 03:05 PM
All old Slashing Legion members who follow Josh are welcomed in Shadow Syndicate. A special rank has been given for SL HRs who are following josh.
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EmperorJosh is not online. EmperorJosh
Joined: 10 Mar 2014
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08 Jun 2014 03:06 PM
That will be put in place if Hanno refuses to return SL. This is to show Hanno the opinion of SL.
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krazykid8008 is not online. krazykid8008
Joined: 27 Dec 2012
Total Posts: 12
08 Jun 2014 03:06 PM
#Quick told me to say that.
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Scorchio is not online. Scorchio
Joined: 25 Jun 2007
Total Posts: 1711
08 Jun 2014 03:06 PM
SS stands by you, Josh.
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XtornadoX456 is not online. XtornadoX456
Joined: 24 Dec 2012
Total Posts: 17
08 Jun 2014 03:07 PM
Josh did so much for SL. Don't just say Hanno deserves it. Think about it.
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TDogStrike08 is not online. TDogStrike08
Joined: 06 Jan 2014
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08 Jun 2014 03:07 PM
They are both great leaders. But I think hanno should have SL a bit longer.
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EmperorJosh is not online. EmperorJosh
Joined: 10 Mar 2014
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08 Jun 2014 03:07 PM
Krazy, post your opinion, not what someone else says.
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FrostComet is not online. FrostComet
Joined: 29 Jul 2012
Total Posts: 6164
08 Jun 2014 03:09 PM
If they don't return SL to you Emp, join Vision of Conquest.
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HannoBarca is not online. HannoBarca
Joined: 20 Aug 2012
Total Posts: 509
08 Jun 2014 03:10 PM
Firstly, Let me set the record straight.

Instead of having josh lie to you, here's what actually happened.

I retired, because I was sick of Josh's leadership. He then quit SL and gave it to me- Forum here:

http://www.roblox.com/Forum/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=135597178

Therefore, I have control of SL wether or not josh wants it or not.

Secondly, he told me in skype that I could decide wether or not I give it back:

Joshua Flashman
‎9‎:‎45‎ ‎PM that means
I don't have control over you
‎9‎:‎46‎ ‎PM it's not like normal when I transfer it to you
you have technical leadership and moral leadership
[LATER]
Joshua Flashman
‎9‎:‎47‎ ‎PM you don't have to give it back


Ho, ho, ho.


Thirdly, from MortuusUltricies, High Council:
[6/5/2014 9:24:45 PM] MortuusUltricies: I feel that Hanno can help me help the group become more disicplined
[6/5/2014 9:27:32 PM] Joshua Flashman: I can help you too
[6/5/2014 9:27:49 PM] MortuusUltricies: Last time you said I could get a higher rank to be able to do it
[6/5/2014 9:27:57 PM] MortuusUltricies: But then I was immediately demoted.
[6/5/2014 9:28:01 PM] MortuusUltricies: I cant do anything in the group
[6/5/2014 9:28:05 PM] MortuusUltricies: Unless I have a high rank
[6/5/2014 9:28:23 PM] MortuusUltricies: Because everyone else disrespects the other HR's just beause they are HR's thierselves.
[6/5/2014 9:29:07 PM] MortuusUltricies: Hanno and I already have plans so
[6/5/2014 9:29:17 PM] MortuusUltricies: You better be able to do stuff if I am gonna vote for you.
[6/5/2014 9:30:07 PM] Joshua Flashman: well
[6/5/2014 9:30:26 PM] Joshua Flashman: i was
[6/5/2014 9:30:27 PM] Joshua Flashman: planning
[6/5/2014 9:30:32 PM] Joshua Flashman: on making you and schmear
[6/5/2014 9:30:34 PM] Joshua Flashman: maybe someone else
[6/5/2014 9:30:36 PM] Joshua Flashman: hc
[6/5/2014 9:30:55 PM] MortuusUltricies: I was HC
[6/5/2014 9:30:59 PM] MortuusUltricies: But was immediately demoted
[6/5/2014 9:31:06 PM] Joshua Flashman: i meant
[6/5/2014 9:31:07 PM] Joshua Flashman: permanentely
[6/5/2014 9:31:14 PM] MortuusUltricies: Mhm
[6/5/2014 9:31:27 PM] MortuusUltricies: I dont know
[6/5/2014 9:55:22 PM] MortuusUltricies: But I dont know

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IN CONCLUISON!

1- I can keep SL no matter what, according to josh.
2- Josh attempted to bribe at least one member (I would expect more, but I can't say for sure), to improve his standings in the poll (It was unsuccesful- I'm glad Mort decided against it).


SL! Hear me. I do not want to lose people based on a rivalry full of deception, full of lies. A clan cannot be run divided. SL must stand together.


Here is my statement. I will NOT give back SL, because I feel like under my leadership, SL can become greater, more powerful, and more FAIR. I want to hear what everyone thinks. When Josh led, not everyone's voice was heard, I say this because my own was cut short often. Unfair things happened, and we only got things done because we threatened him (Mainly for that iKrypt thing). That is not how a group can be run.


Please, do not see this as a power grasp from me. If you dislike me because of the HR reforms, know that you will be able to earn a previous rank back- or more, through hard work. I cannot promise anything more, anyhing less.

I promise to be as fair as I can. In order to help do this, Slash, Bob, and Mort will form a council that will make sure I do not do anything stupid. But they are only three- I want to hear the voices and opinions of every single one.

That isn't a guarantee that I'll do what you say, but I will at least ponder it. We will bring in new reforms, which will make everything for the better.

No more inactive, unused allies.

Guidelines updated to the current times.

HRs, MRs, and LRs who have a chance to succeed in the clan fairly, evenly, based on factors like skill, loyalty, maturity and discipline, not wether or not they're my friend.

To a new era, SL!

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Fawge is not online. Fawge
Joined: 11 Sep 2012
Total Posts: 2259
08 Jun 2014 03:12 PM
Look to tell you the complete truth Josh has brought SL to were it is now Hanno was always the 2nd person to whatever happened to josh he would come up and I was 3iC for that and to be honest everytime hanno has SL I had a mini heart attack because he was never a loyal leader at that point in time. I was once given owner of SL and I gave right back to josh because I am a loyal person and I left for 1 year and Josh has brought the group to 3k+ members that is incredible when I was here we had barely 500 member isn't that crazy? well that is my point of view hope you can reflect if you are on of the original SL members

~FAWGE
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EmperorJosh is not online. EmperorJosh
Joined: 10 Mar 2014
Total Posts: 2188
08 Jun 2014 03:13 PM
I wasn't bribing him, I was informing him of who I was going to have in high command, regardless of whether he voted for me or not.

That included Schmear, Mortuss, and Fawge has high council.

I had made Mortuus high council in the past, but was removed due to popular vote, and I was saying that I would put him there again.
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harry510 is not online. harry510
Joined: 30 Jan 2013
Total Posts: 1499
08 Jun 2014 03:14 PM
WHy don't we all be friends?
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EmperorJosh is not online. EmperorJosh
Joined: 10 Mar 2014
Total Posts: 2188
08 Jun 2014 03:14 PM
Because he won't return the group to me. I was completely shocked when he said he wouldn't return it.
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Fawge is not online. Fawge
Joined: 11 Sep 2012
Total Posts: 2259
08 Jun 2014 03:14 PM
Look Hanno I do not know who you think you are but copy and pasting something some said isn't Really considered "Proof" show us a picture or something anyone can wright something
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quickninetaileddemon is not online. quickninetaileddemon
Joined: 09 Jun 2010
Total Posts: 21
08 Jun 2014 03:18 PM
LELELEL copy and paste, easy to forge.
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