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Re: Seems People Are Being Misinformed about Alianor 3

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EchoReaper is not online. EchoReaper
Joined: 14 Oct 2008
Total Posts: 4323
07 Jun 2014 09:39 AM
From what I've observed on the wall via alts, it seems the people part of the event that took place have neglected to include some vital information as to why I left FEAR and ATC, and the only person working on Alianor 3 has left. C&G, I have need of your input for some questions at the end. Feel free to skip the ridiculous FEAR politics.

It seems that the part about me using my status to get someone demoted has gotten around, which is completely true, but it doesn't seem to be apparent that the person I had demoted was LaboredDman, which if you know well, causes fueds the instance his mouth opens. It also seems that only part of the reason I wanted him demoted got out too -- funny how stories change after being passed through a couple people. The reason I wanted him demoted was not for posting "I'm Optimus Prime", as has been passed around, but instigating another fued. Just the day before, he had said "I'm Optimus Prime" and caused pages and pages of violent argument to be posted (in case you haven't picked up already, he does this quite frequently. He has been demoted NUMEROUS times because of this, but always ends up getting his rank back, the reason to which is explained later.) So after posting the SAME EXACT MESSAGE the day before, he knew all too well what would happen if he posted it again. He tried to play dumb and say he was just having fun (which probably is true -- but instead of having fun roleplaying, he was having fun making people tear their hair out), but after he kept posting despite being given instructions by HRs to do otherwise, I decided that I would have none of it and forced Strong to demote him. Notice I said "forced". I used my status as the only person working on Alianor 3 to have him demoted to REC (note, I had not wished for him to be demoted all the way from Lieutenant to Recruit, but there isn't a way to prevent him from posting on the wall otherwise) by threatening to leave if he wasn't demoted. Strong saw that I was more valuable to the group than a instigating child, and demoted him, thus, the wall was made peaceful.

The story continues though -- all would be well, and I would still be working on Alianor III at this point if the second part of this story had not occurred. Zach2222, the extremely productive General who takes his job very, very seriously
promoted LaboredDman back to Lieutenant. I asked him why he promoted LaboredDman back, and he replied that he thought Lab was being bullied. I explained the actual situation, but zach would have none of it, and refused to change his mind. I told him the same thing I told Strong -- that I would leave if Lab wasn't demoted to Recruit. He saw LaboredDman as more productive and useful to FEAR than me, so he made the decision for the rest of FEAR that feeding the wall with spam is more important than the fort that has been in the makes for nearly 2 years.

You may be asking yourself why I left. Here is my response:

I will not tolerate a group that is so blind that it endorses an instigating child over someone who has put countless hours into into developing a fort that has been past-due for two years.
FEAR has shooed away every other scripter -- I figured it was time for me to save my sanity as well.
I'm a nice person, but even that has its limit. I'm not going to sit back and take a bunch of flak from HCOM when I am(was) providing the group with a fort above all others, free of charge.



You may have heard that FEAR has "more scripters" that are working on Alianor 3. Let me give you a list of the possible candidates who could work on Alianor 3:

Me -- former ATC programmer/executive; left

Unclear -- Former ATC programmer/executive; left, but decided to work on A3 for payment; however, then decided that $350 was not worth the effort that he had to put in(none of you can even begin to comprehend how advanced A3 was)

SwitchOff -- he works on Venezia, and is an ATC intern. I can say with 100% certainty that he will not be able to complete A3. He is a novice scripter, and will have to resort to using free models to complete anything (take a look at his places if you don't believe me). If he manages to put it together, it won't be as advanced as intended -- it will contain the same old scripts as A2A.

WickedMemory -- Extremely novice scripter -- not even in ATC(I have to go this low because FEAR is desperate -- they have no scripters) -- can't even make Kohl's training holo on his own, much less a fort.

Sunstaff -- Former FEAR ATC -- rebelled against FEAR; no help here

Any other decent scripter left on ROBLOX -- will either refuse to save their sanity or are already in another group like RAT.

FEAR has no one working on Alianor 3 that will be able to finish it, nor will it ever. Its last chance was ruined by King Geoffrey of ROBLOX and his pet transformer.

Now, C&G, I seek your advice:

What would you have me do? I left with full faith that FEAR's HCOM would relay the full truth to everyone, but they have not. I have been monitoring the wall with an alt and they even have deleted comments in my defense. They have betrayed my trust (remember, I never even wronged them -- they have no reason to wrong me), so what should be my next course of action?

Do know that I have the same level of access to A3 that Unclear had.

Be on the lookout FEAR -- now that you have betrayed my trust, and so many of those who had displayed themselves as friends to me have instantly changed their opinions of me now that I am no longer providing them with a fort above all others, free of charge (that's slave work, you know?), I am observing the wall and will take note of anything you say. TundraFlames is ever watchful.

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KazXX is not online. KazXX
Joined: 28 Dec 2010
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07 Jun 2014 09:40 AM
Things are really heating up in the Alianor 3 fandom
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seifo22 is not online. seifo22
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07 Jun 2014 09:45 AM
Oh good, Im somewhat glad you've left. Your negative on everything and you just put everything down.
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EchoReaper is not online. EchoReaper
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07 Jun 2014 09:45 AM
Well FEAR kind of shoots themselves in the foot when it comes to development, so it's not surprising. What is surprising is that I remained with them for so long.
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WickedMemory is not online. WickedMemory
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07 Jun 2014 09:46 AM
You actualy had reasons to leave x)

Good luck!
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Artificially is not online. Artificially
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07 Jun 2014 09:47 AM
fear is stupid they dont deserve u

how is laboreddman more productive than echo, the guy that wouldve done the most important part in a3

the only thing labored is fuel to the flames, a tryhard in fear for like 1-2 years

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EchoReaper is not online. EchoReaper
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07 Jun 2014 09:47 AM
"Your negative on everything and you just put everything down."
I'm blunt -- if someone makes a place out of free models and offers it up, I'm going to tell them it's crap. If someone is bragging that they're smart, but they're lying, I'm going to let them know that.
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seifo22 is not online. seifo22
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07 Jun 2014 09:47 AM
Sounds fair then Echo.
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sword960 is not online. sword960
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07 Jun 2014 09:48 AM
See ya Echo, like Seifo said, I'm also kinda happy to see you go. You get kinda annoying telling me what I should do with my groups.
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Artificially is not online. Artificially
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07 Jun 2014 09:48 AM
seifo how could you be glad echo left fear

echo was fear's only hope in getting a3 completed, a extremely overdue project
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seifo22 is not online. seifo22
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07 Jun 2014 09:49 AM
Oh Im not glad that his left ATC he is a great and talented scripter. Its just he made the wall and anywhere he went negative.
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EchoReaper is not online. EchoReaper
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07 Jun 2014 09:49 AM
" I'm also kinda happy to see you go. You get kinda annoying telling me what I should do with my groups."

You complained about not having enough group space, and I gave you a solution.
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alexto57 is not online. alexto57
Joined: 15 Jul 2013
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07 Jun 2014 09:50 AM
Hm. I thought you said that this Zack was a good general. He couldn't have been very good if he prized a stupid child over someone who was building a damn fort!
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Fedorakid is not online. Fedorakid
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07 Jun 2014 09:51 AM
I was a scripter in that II clan, to get admission in ATC....

then I left because it was boring.
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K1D4 is not online. K1D4
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07 Jun 2014 09:51 AM
Good job, wish I could see Alinor 3 tho.

The neko
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K1D4 is not online. K1D4
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07 Jun 2014 09:52 AM
Alianor*

The neko
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Fedorakid is not online. Fedorakid
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07 Jun 2014 09:52 AM
but ye, echo is a serious jerk. like....really jerk..ish....

but in this case he seems pretty legit o_o
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EchoReaper is not online. EchoReaper
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07 Jun 2014 09:53 AM
@alex: I was being EXTREMELY sarcastic. Zach has been in FEAR the longest, and he's stayed the same age ever since he got his rank, which means that he's also the worst at his job.
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seifo22 is not online. seifo22
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07 Jun 2014 09:54 AM
I also agree that Labord being favoured over Echo was wrong.
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Redsoxs4 is not online. Redsoxs4
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07 Jun 2014 09:55 AM
@Seifo, that's because he was a mature wall poster, and some people get annoying.(not naming people.)


@Echo It's your decision, have fun in life and ROBLOX. :']
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sword960 is not online. sword960
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07 Jun 2014 09:57 AM
I didn't complain about my group space. Also, you're. Right about terrible free modelled places, but don't call them names. Explain politely how to make a good place to the Creator of the game. You'd be mucg more likeable if you were polite on how you say things.
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iroctheworld is not online. iroctheworld
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07 Jun 2014 09:57 AM
Echo, do I have you on Skype?
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seifo22 is not online. seifo22
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07 Jun 2014 09:58 AM
@Red, there is a difference between rude and mature.
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EchoReaper is not online. EchoReaper
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07 Jun 2014 09:58 AM
@iroc: I don't think so. echos_fear
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firewiz66 is not online. firewiz66
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07 Jun 2014 10:01 AM
Well, the search begins. Bye Echo! I just want to say that I'm a fan of your mindset; you live in reality unlike others. I hate seeing the good ones flock away from FEAR, but you had your reasons and I will not question them. I wish you the best of luck wherever your path takes you!

P.S. I still didn't get that autograph...
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