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crusader583 is not online. crusader583
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04 Jun 2014 06:13 PM
90% OFF ALL KNIFE CRIMES ARE DONE WITH AN ASSAULT KNIFE

BAN THESE KNIVES AND KEEP OUR KIDS SAFE:
CREATE NO-KNIFE ZONES
LIMIT THE SIZE OF THE BLADE A KNIFE CAN HAVE
CREATE KNIFE REGISTRIES
KNIFE ID LAWS MUST BE MANDATORY
NO OPEN CARRY OR CONCEALED CARRY OF KNIVES

WE MUST SAVE OUR CHILDREN!
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thedestroyer115 is not online. thedestroyer115
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04 Jun 2014 06:35 PM
Slow down bud, let them keep their knives before we ban their guns.
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flatline115 is not online. flatline115
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04 Jun 2014 06:38 PM
Slow down bud, let them keep their knives before we ban their guns.
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First we should ban breathing and drinking water as everybody who has breathed air and/or drank water has died.
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flatline115 is not online. flatline115
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04 Jun 2014 06:39 PM
Also whilist on the subject:

"INTRODUCTION 
International evidence and comparisons have long been offered 
as proof of the mantra that more guns mean more deaths and that 
fewer guns, therefore, mean fewer deaths.1 Unfortunately,  such 
discussions are all too often been afflicted by misconceptions and 
factual error and focus on comparisons that are unrepresentative. 
It may be useful to begin with a few examples. There is a com‐
pound assertion that (a) guns are uniquely available in the United 
States compared with other modern developed nations, which is 
why (b) the United  States has  by far the highest murder rate. 
Though these assertions have been endlessly repeated, statement 
(b) is, in fact, false and statement (a) is substantially so.  
Since at least 1965, the false assertion that the United States has 
the industrialized world’s highest murder rate has been an artifact 
of politically motivated Soviet minimization designed to hide the 
true homicide rates.2 Since well before that date, the Soviet Union 

possessed extremely stringent gun controls3 that were effectuated 
by a police state apparatus providing stringent enforcement.4 So 
successful was that regime that few Russian civilians now have 
firearms and very few murders involve them.5 
Yet, manifest suc‐
cess in keeping its people disarmed did not prevent the Soviet 
Union from having far and away the highest murder rate in the 
developed world.6 In the 1960s and early 1970s, the gun‐less So‐
viet Union’s murder rates paralleled or generally exceeded those 
of gun‐ridden America. While American rates stabilized and then 
steeply declined, however, Russian murder increased  so drasti‐
cally that  by the  early  1990s the Russian rate  was three times 
higher than that of the United States. Between 1998‐2004 (the lat‐
est figure available for Russia), Russian murder rates were nearly 
four times higher than American rates. Similar murder rates also 
characterize the Ukraine, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, and various 
other now‐independent European nations of the former U.S.S.R.7 
Thus, in the United States and the former Soviet Union transition‐
ing into current‐day Russia, “homicide results suggest that where 

guns are scarce other weapons are substituted in killings.”8 While 
American gun ownership is quite high, Table 1 shows many other 
developed  nations  (e.g.,  Norway,  Finland,  Germany,  France, 
Denmark)  with  high rates  of  gun  ownership.  These  countries, 
however, have murder rates as low or lower than many devel‐
oped nations in which gun ownership is much rarer. For example, 
Luxembourg, where handguns are totally banned and ownership 
of  any  kind  of  gun is minimal, had  a murder rate nine times 
higher than Germany in 2002.9"

- Harvard law school
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thedestroyer115 is not online. thedestroyer115
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04 Jun 2014 06:44 PM
Please provide me the complete bibliography on that post.

Guns should be given to the military, because they are meant to kill people.

If the criminal doesn't have a gun, the defender won't need a gun either.

That's why they would have knives.
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flatline115 is not online. flatline115
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04 Jun 2014 06:44 PM
Please provide me the complete bibliography on that post.

Guns should be given to the military, because they are meant to kill people.

If the criminal doesn't have a gun, the defender won't need a gun either.

That's why they would have knives.
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http://www.law.harvard.edu/students/orgs/jlpp/Vol30_No2_KatesMauseronline.pdf

I gave you the complete introduction.
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flatline115 is not online. flatline115
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04 Jun 2014 06:46 PM
If the criminal doesn't have a gun, the defender won't need a gun either.
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Yea. I guess if guns are banned like in Mexico they'll say... Well guys you got us, here take our guns and bullets. We've lost, good game!
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flatline115 is not online. flatline115
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04 Jun 2014 06:47 PM
By the way the 2nd amendment wasn't made for self-protection against other citizens it was made to protect yourself against a tyrannical government.
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thedestroyer115 is not online. thedestroyer115
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04 Jun 2014 06:47 PM
Is this Mexico?
No.

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flatline115 is not online. flatline115
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04 Jun 2014 06:48 PM
No.
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And you think that the criminals here would accept a gun ban? They're criminals they don't abide by the law. That should be obvious.
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thedestroyer115 is not online. thedestroyer115
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04 Jun 2014 06:49 PM
@flatline115
OR, perhaps to own a weapon to serve in your state's militia.

Besides, you couldn't defeat the US with an uprising. The constitution is pretty much flip-flopping its entire purpose if that was the case.
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thedestroyer115 is not online. thedestroyer115
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04 Jun 2014 06:50 PM
@flatline115
Sure, there would be some trouble for a while.
But as ARMED police continue to crackdown on weapons, the amount of gun-wielding criminals would drop.

It won't be an instant change.
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thedestroyer115 is not online. thedestroyer115
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04 Jun 2014 06:52 PM
I've made this argument over and over again.

Let us put aside our arguments and continue foruming, without an ugly flamewar, yes?
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flatline115 is not online. flatline115
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04 Jun 2014 06:55 PM
OR, perhaps to own a weapon to serve in your state's militia.
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If this was the case then why during the founding fathers run did normal citizens, besides people in the army have guns certainly. But lets look at the historical context around this. If they believed in peacefully getting political agendas done then what was the American revolution? Was it not an armed conflict? Was it Ghandi like peaceful? No it wasn't.

Besides, you couldn't defeat the US with an uprising. The constitution is pretty much flip-flopping its entire purpose if that was the case.
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Without the people the US government has no power. If most of the army, navy and airforce left who's going to operate the weapons they have....? The president and his cabinet?
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flatline115 is not online. flatline115
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04 Jun 2014 06:57 PM
Sure, there would be some trouble for a while.
But as ARMED police continue to crackdown on weapons, the amount of gun-wielding criminals would drop.
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Except you turn everybody who has a gun into a gun-wielding criminal by doing this. I know nobody who wants to just go and hand in their guns. Nobody will do that the gun culture in America is way to strong for that and you know that's true am I lying?
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crusader583 is not online. crusader583
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04 Jun 2014 06:58 PM
The colonial citizenry is what formed this nation, not an organized and professional army. We have the right to keep and bear arms AND to form militias because the founding fathers knew of the evils of a tyrannical government, and didn't want a repeat of the events in the new nation. Even if the military sided with the government and tried to put down an uprising, it'll be a guerilla insurgency that will last for decades, if not, forever.
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flatline115 is not online. flatline115
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04 Jun 2014 06:58 PM
Let us put aside our arguments and continue foruming, without an ugly flamewar, yes?
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I have never flamed. I don't flame therefore, there will be no flamewar committed by me.
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Mischievously is not online. Mischievously
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04 Jun 2014 08:31 PM
even kitchen knives ?

ermagawd i need a licence to cook
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ningatropper is not online. ningatropper
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04 Jun 2014 09:18 PM
Banning weapons won't stop crimes kid.

You can kill anyone with anything.
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crusader583 is not online. crusader583
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04 Jun 2014 09:33 PM
I feel saddened that there are some people that don't realize the original post was satire...
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ChicagoPoliceOfficer is not online. ChicagoPoliceOfficer
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04 Jun 2014 09:47 PM
@ninga
Even pillows?
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ningatropper is not online. ningatropper
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04 Jun 2014 09:48 PM
...? Are you dumb..... Like why did you even ask that?
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wyattthenoobhater is not online. wyattthenoobhater
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04 Jun 2014 11:55 PM
Ban electricity! People die from electrocution!
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0Z0NE is not online. 0Z0NE
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05 Jun 2014 08:52 AM
Actually, you can kill people with a pillow.
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thedestroyer115 is not online. thedestroyer115
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05 Jun 2014 12:20 PM
Ban idiocy!
It's giving me frustration!
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