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Dimste is not online. Dimste
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02 Jun 2014 10:31 PM
did you just call squid egotistic.

typical tgi officer.

- Cyrus Thane
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ShatteredQuantum is not online. ShatteredQuantum
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02 Jun 2014 10:32 PM
dimsht like you weren't hotheaded as a officer
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Dimste is not online. Dimste
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02 Jun 2014 10:35 PM
no actually.

i was one of the more lax ones.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G40AzeMJs0c

i mean, if i was a hothead, i'd be getting mad every time i got killed.

but i was pretty silly in that.

even in ts3 while raiding/defending i was pretty lax. the delargivics, boost, and others were hotheads though. but that doesn't mean they're not cool.

- Cyrus Thane
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digimonpokemon is not online. digimonpokemon
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02 Jun 2014 10:36 PM
Alrighty.

First off, TGI generally can't keep their own reputation up without trying to shove new, and better clans back into the abyss of darkness.

Second, TGI just isn't TGI. It's not what it used to be, and it's spiraled off into some kind of monster. It can't decide if it wants to be a sort of new VAK, or some average powerclan that'll die out in a few months. It's too volatile and all.

Third, without a strong, multi-layered leadership system, TGI is probably able to fall harder than Team Domino would. You have 2 people supporting a rather large empire before anything gets polished, and expecting them to do perfect without overload. That just DOESNT WORK!

Fourth, I'll be honest. No matter how bad Tober actually was, TGI needs him. Tober was one of those few leaders who wouldn't be afraid to take over a new clan and worry if they screw up... regardless of the outcome. Anyway, "Glory to Ourselves, Glory to Us!" is possibly the ONLY thing that kept TGI through the war for a while.

Fifth, TGI just wants to be VAK. I mean, you heard Tober's war speech, didn't you. "Glory to Vaktovia..." and then, 1 minute later, "Glory to uhh.. Arcadia!"
TGI really just wants to be a not too obvious VAK clone.

Sixth, TGI really is nothing without TAG.
It really isn't.
The only thing keeping TGI alive was the trainings given in TAG.
Take that away, and you have a husk-zombie thing with glowing eyes, and a TGI uniform on it.

Seventh, TGI's lore is actually really really really weak.
It's very... for lack of better description, "Anti-BioWare".
It doesn't really give details about the past, or what happened to form the clan, and whatever.
It's very general, pretty much being "Uhhhhhh well uhh there's this nation called Arcadia, and uhh, it's flag has a gear that represents a bunch of wanna-be-Turian concepts, but no one actually cares about and eagle, oh wait, it's a Communist eagle... on it, and uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hmm uhhhhhhhhhhh well its lead by uhhh Castellian Neverwinter Knights.... and uhhhhhhh we want to uhhhh be Frostarians... with an uhhhh different name.. so uhh yeah! TGI > ALL!"

It seems like they actually tried for a minute, and then never dedicated more than a story that took 1 hour to write up.

TGI is generally okay, but it's just not TGI anymore.
It's more of TGI Friday's Official Military.
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ShatteredQuantum is not online. ShatteredQuantum
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02 Jun 2014 10:38 PM
didgimon how does your opinion even matter
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digimonpokemon is not online. digimonpokemon
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02 Jun 2014 10:40 PM
Dear Leader Obtention is always right.
TGI generally just doesn't like saying "Hmmmmm maybe you're right!" unless you put a STA-52 behind their face.
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Crakkitty is not online. Crakkitty
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02 Jun 2014 10:42 PM

did you not see the 20 page lore i wrote.

~am a cat meow~
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Dimste is not online. Dimste
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02 Jun 2014 10:44 PM
@crak

bet it's not as good as tricon's.

- Cyrus Thane
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ShatteredQuantum is not online. ShatteredQuantum
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02 Jun 2014 10:45 PM
how is tricon tho?
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Crakkitty is not online. Crakkitty
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02 Jun 2014 10:45 PM

yawn

~am a cat meow~
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Dimste is not online. Dimste
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02 Jun 2014 10:47 PM
in-dev.

i still bet our lore is better than tgi's.

- Cyrus Thane
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Crakkitty is not online. Crakkitty
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02 Jun 2014 10:48 PM

say what you want i guess

~am a cat meow~
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exzellionblade is not online. exzellionblade
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02 Jun 2014 10:49 PM
TGI is pretty bad
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solticex is not online. solticex
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02 Jun 2014 10:52 PM
Hey its Exzellion!
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ShatteredQuantum is not online. ShatteredQuantum
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02 Jun 2014 10:52 PM
then ex declare war on tgi if it is so bad :P
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Inductive is not online. Inductive
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02 Jun 2014 11:02 PM
If I recall, the totally discarded, thanks to Vak, war terms mentioned something about neither side being able to lose unless the other side admitted defeat. Vak didn't win, actually. Though, TGI probably could have won in the minds of the general populace if they declared a win when Vak first updated their base and it was 24-1.

Vak wars FC > Vak updates base
Vak loses to RSFT5 > Vak updates base
Vak starts to lose to TGI > Vak updates base

I'm seeing a pattern here.
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squidboi2 is not online. squidboi2
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02 Jun 2014 11:03 PM
@induct

way to bump this thread and bring it back to light ya nerd.

enlighten me on the updates to smo during the fc war.
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Inductive is not online. Inductive
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02 Jun 2014 11:06 PM
If I recall, that was when you added the ATAC. Then again, you would have to ask a FC member.
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squidboi2 is not online. squidboi2
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02 Jun 2014 11:07 PM
'If I recall, that was when you added the ATAC. Then again, you would have to ask a FC member.'

that made you sound really informed and credible, lmao.
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Inductive is not online. Inductive
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02 Jun 2014 11:11 PM
The fact that you're not denying it makes you sound a certain way too, Squi. Vak's #1 defensive strategy is to update their base. Time has proven it.
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squidboi2 is not online. squidboi2
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02 Jun 2014 11:12 PM
yes time has certainly proven it.

almost as much as your baseless accusations!

you're fighting my argument for me, god bless you lad.
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Inductive is not online. Inductive
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02 Jun 2014 11:14 PM
Yes, my baseless accusations, because Vak has never updated their base when they started to lose anything ever. Not with FC, not with RSFT5, not with TGI. They've never updated it ever.
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squidboi2 is not online. squidboi2
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02 Jun 2014 11:15 PM
'Not with FC, not with RSFT5, not with TGI.'

as you have nothing to back up fc, or even rfst i'm willing to guess that makes you 1 for 3.

hardly the damning evidence you purport to wave around our faces.

your argument can be boiled down to this equivalent

'the moon landing was fake because reasons'
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Inductive is not online. Inductive
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02 Jun 2014 11:17 PM
Squi, we both know that Vak updated their base when they lost to RSFT5, and we both know that they added the ATAC because they weren't doing so hot against FC.

"history didn't happen' -squi
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McFlexo is not online. McFlexo
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02 Jun 2014 11:18 PM
"hardly the damning evidence you purport to wave around our faces."

I think when it was updated so much, it doesn't even look like SMO anymore is your proof.
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