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Re: [JC] Our Problem, Our Solutions

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Verodoxys is not online. Verodoxys
Joined: 29 Jun 2012
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01 Jun 2014 12:30 AM
To begin, this thread will identify the main problems with our current system, why we would be better off differently, and what we can do. I will also state that I will not be flaming ANYONE in this thread - all argument will be done logically, and with some proof of claim.

Our problem, very oversimplified, is an inefficient HR system. Keep in mind that no one HR is to blame - in fact, it's not even any HR's fault - It's just the fact that our system is obviously not working.

The (arguably) largest problems are the Supreme Commander and the Senate. The Senate isn't so much a problem-causer as a passerby who isn't just doing nothing, but CAN'T do anything - it has little power. A Chairman of the Senate has said that the Senate is a powerless 'sham'

The Supreme Commander is the problem; Or, really, the lack of one. Our present Supreme Commander has been given, for all intents and purposes, absolute power. With this power, he essentially chooses to only moderate.

This is our problem, and my solution?

Fascism.

(Not exactly fascism, but a fascism essentially reworked to still hold the same principles and work on ROBLOX at the same time)

ROBLOX fascism would be based on three principles - ultranationalism, militarism, and self-sufficiency. Ultranationalism would, on ROBLOX, mean the following:

1. The true leader is the state. The state has all power, and should be listened to above all else.

2. The leader is the embodiment, or voice, of the state. The leader holds the same principles as the clan, and will stop at nothing to protect and promote those principles.

3. High ranks are only high ranks because power has been granted to them by the leader (and the state).

4. Low ranks are required to listen to the leader because he is the voice of the state. Low ranks are required to listen to the high ranks because they have been granted power by the state.

Once these four principles are in place, you have ultranationalism. Next, militarism. Militarism isn't hard to explain; It essentially means that the military (on ROBLOX, the clan) serves to protect and promote the interests and principles of the state.

Self-sufficiency is even simpler; It means that the state requires no help to function, it can do everything it needs to on its own.

These three principles make up ROBLOX fascism. Fascism is, in my opinion, the solution to our problems. With this system, we can fix JC. Remember the revolution, remember the days we once had, and think of the days we can have again.



Colour Sergeant Verodoxys
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eviljeffhardy21 is not online. eviljeffhardy21
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01 Jun 2014 12:31 AM
mk
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zdude3000 is not online. zdude3000
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01 Jun 2014 12:40 AM
It's not so much that the senate is bad, but instead that the senate has little power due to a corrupt system of HRs who will only listen to the senate if the HRs feel it will benefit them.

The reason the HRs so frequently dismiss the senate's decisions is because they don't get any repercussions or penalties for doing so. Why? Lazy SC.

~Rommel of C&G
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Verodoxys is not online. Verodoxys
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01 Jun 2014 12:42 AM
@zdude

Either way, the fault is in the inefficiency of the Supreme Commander.

It's like two raids on different days; You don't change the course of action, the solution is the same. In the raid case, defense is the solution. In our problem, the solution is fascism.
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PharaohOfEgypt117 is not online. PharaohOfEgypt117
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01 Jun 2014 12:44 AM
Support. Strongly agree with the Fascism segment. Nicely thought up. We need a new Supreme Commander, the Senate could stay.
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uyoyalt is not online. uyoyalt
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01 Jun 2014 01:02 AM
Support, indeed.
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RainingColors is not online. RainingColors
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01 Jun 2014 01:15 AM
I'm always careful on changing systems but,
the system we are currently using isn't proving to be good anyways.

I support most of the ideas in this system, like HRs essentially not having a large amount of power and the State not needing to rely on others to get their job done.

BUT

I feel that right now, we should just elect new Supreme Commander, and give the Senate more power and more Senators as to carry out more issues.

But as I've stated before... the system we are using isn't doing good...
So I support this I guess.

tl;dr - #Support
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fireroo69 is not online. fireroo69
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01 Jun 2014 01:20 AM
Full support.
Vero, VETERANS GATHER
Make like a jc vet group that supports this.
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AccumulatedError is not online. AccumulatedError
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01 Jun 2014 01:22 AM
Full support of NB King, Ex-JC Enforcer, Punisher, Colonel, Allied leader, Supreme Judge, all IG, etc. etc...

(When these things actually mattered)
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fireroo69 is not online. fireroo69
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01 Jun 2014 02:51 AM
/care twop

:)
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Reclaimers is not online. Reclaimers
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01 Jun 2014 02:54 AM
Hmmmm
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hammer124 is not online. hammer124
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01 Jun 2014 02:54 AM
Support from beyond the grave.

I've not even been around much but I do know that the senate doesn't really serve a purpose due to the lack of influence they carry.

-Ham
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Noivix is not online. Noivix
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01 Jun 2014 03:01 AM
suport!!
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Acurius is not online. Acurius
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01 Jun 2014 03:01 AM
clap clap clap

♔ Even the sharpest blade can be the dullest ♔
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KingOfDeutschland is not online. KingOfDeutschland
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01 Jun 2014 03:04 AM
wat.
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Verodoxys is not online. Verodoxys
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01 Jun 2014 03:18 AM
@king

tl;dr - JC needs fascism.
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iSecretive is not online. iSecretive
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01 Jun 2014 03:19 AM
Solution for JC- Shutdown qq
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iSecretive is not online. iSecretive
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01 Jun 2014 03:20 AM
Um I'm joking, don't be hatin on me.
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Arsonix is not online. Arsonix
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01 Jun 2014 03:21 AM
a solution is defending your fort snakes
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evilclownthingy is not online. evilclownthingy
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01 Jun 2014 03:21 AM
did you just say fascism is JC's solution

~ I'm still a ghost noob
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Ayrton87 is not online. Ayrton87
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01 Jun 2014 03:21 AM
tl;dr

i od any gender <3
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Verodoxys is not online. Verodoxys
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01 Jun 2014 03:22 AM
@evil - Yes.
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Blast87 is not online. Blast87
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01 Jun 2014 03:37 AM
This is brilliant, should aid with my plans.
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digimonpokemon is not online. digimonpokemon
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01 Jun 2014 03:53 AM
Let me tell you EVERYTHING that's wrong with John's Cobras.

Your members are poorly trained.
Your High Ranks can't respond well.
Your trainings do nothing at all.
Well, anything with "Cobras" in it is going to be assumed bad. But you can't really fix that.
You have no real Patton equivalents, no real militaristic characteristics that make you stand out.
You have no real technology, or style.
Your too abusive with your current theme.
You have a leader who pretty much acts like a 7 year old, doing something, then denying it later.
Too many autowins, and struggles to do anything.
Poorly designed uniforms.
Nothing really limit-breaking.

In addition, everything John's Cobras is essentially overused things in the minor clan world, done even worse.


Overall, it's a superclan version of a terribad clan like 607 Military.
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Beebart is not online. Beebart
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01 Jun 2014 03:55 AM
Dictatorship*
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