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crusader583 is not online. crusader583
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17 May 2014 02:57 PM
So long as I am paying taxes, and not committing felonies, the social contract my citizenship with the united states creates means that my rights are non-negotiable, and irrevocable barring a breach from me of said social contract. Efforts to restrict rights guaranteed to me by said contract due to the actions of an insane hyper-minority are tyranny, plain and simple. There is no room for negotiation on my rights, or your rights, and even if you want to see your rights limited, I will not stop resisting such nonsense, for the sake of every single United States citizen's continued freedom.

Then again, the freedom is already gone, and the cowards have already won. The 4th amendment has become so provisional as to be a joke, same with the 5th and 10th. In all the efforts made to protect the 2nd, far too many have quietly accepted the loss of 3 others. My country is tired of freedom, and has embraced fear and weakness, and it makes me sick.


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ColonelMorrill is not online. ColonelMorrill
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17 May 2014 03:20 PM
How are the 4th and 5th being violated?
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crusader583 is not online. crusader583
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17 May 2014 03:25 PM
Unwarranted searches and seizures happen so often it's not even a blip. Go on youtube and you'll find a ton of videos of people having cars, homes, whatever, being searched without proper documentation, or due to a vague suspicion.

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ColonelMorrill is not online. ColonelMorrill
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17 May 2014 03:31 PM
I imagine most people who post videos like that don't show the whole story.

And the 4th Amendment has exceptions.

-In Plain Sight
-Reasonable Suspicion
-If a Crime Has Been Committed

And there may be a couple more. It is also the citizens job (the one being restricted of his rights) to report this to court officials or Internal Affairs.



With the 5th Amendment, I don't see the "right not to incriminate yourself" restricted much. But I see the "Eminent Domain" clause abused more then it should be.
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kitty234 is not online. kitty234
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17 May 2014 04:24 PM
Also there's the border search exception which means the 4th amendment isn't valid within 100 miles of an international border or international airport.
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