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Re: 5 things seriously lacking in sci-fi clans

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BetaKing97 is not online. BetaKing97
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16 May 2014 06:14 PM
[1] Original names.
Nine out of ten names these days are something along the lines of "the (insert any random word here) imperium", and the rest are just plain stupid and make no sense. I can't think of any specific examples other than a clan I saw that was something along the lines of "Advanced Zero". What the heck is that supposed to mean? A number (or lack thereof) is not "advanced", and really has NOTHING to do with war. Which brings me to my next point.

[2] Accurate names.
I am getting really annoyed with all these names that do not match groups. For instance, "(anything here) Corporation". These so-called "corporations" are not actually businesses, for they make tech only for themselves and don't even sell services (which would be more accurate for a MERCENARY GUILD, not a corporation). And then you've got all these "empires" that are basically just modern military groups with space skyboxes, that really do not have any power or anything. And then you've got the "unions" and "republics" and other groups that are supposed to be nations, but either they have no politics, or their politicians have no real power to do anything, and are just there for roleplay. C'mon. Really.

[3] Original lore.
Another thing that bugs me is clan lore--that is, when the clans even bother to write lore. Really, even if the clan is purely military like VAK, lore helps immerse the members, and is fun for the geeks like me that love a good story. But nowadays there is almost no variety in lore. What I'm focusing on here is all the lore that begins on earth. Really, I don't have a huge problem with sci-fi groups starting on earth, but why not do something new and different? Make up your own universe with its own planets, laws of physics, everything. It's not that hard if you put your mind to it.

[4] Original uniforms and ranks.
-Uniforms: I look at the uniforms of most clans today, and I can see three things. VAK-based stuff, OSE-based stuff, and stupid custom trenchcoats that all look the same except for different colors. Not only is this annoying and repetitive, it shows your lack of creativity.
-Ranks: I look at the ranks of most clans today, and most of them are ripoffs of either the US military, the VAK ranks (which are based on real life ranks), or the OSE ranks ("oh, no, we're based on ROME, not OSE..." No one believes that BS.). Guys, these ranking systems are great starting points, because they can work, but you should really make up your own ranks for once...it's easy...just get creative....

[5] Original goals/mindsets
Too many clans pretend to want to either dominate the clan world, bring peace to the clan world, and revolutionize the clan world. Do you not realize that none of the above will ever happen? What's more, so many clan leaders are trying to be the next Vaktus or the next E981, or the next ColourTheory, or the next whatever famous clan leader here....how about this: instead of trying to be the next Vaktus/E981/CT/whoever, why not show the clan world the first YOU?
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BetaKing97 is not online. BetaKing97
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16 May 2014 06:16 PM
'Nuff said.

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HeroMaster is not online. HeroMaster
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16 May 2014 06:17 PM
Slightly proud that even dead on this site, EW is more original than most clans

woopwoop
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yia is not online. yia
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16 May 2014 06:17 PM
i meet all of these and have next to no support

so no, this won't change anything

dango dango. caIculus's otaku maid
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HASARAS is not online. HASARAS
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16 May 2014 06:18 PM
+1
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LordDionysos is not online. LordDionysos
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16 May 2014 06:18 PM
Your primary is soo original.



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LordMori is not online. LordMori
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16 May 2014 06:20 PM
I personally think TRICON is really original with everything.

But you're right.
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Ghettoneff is not online. Ghettoneff
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16 May 2014 06:20 PM
Fleetcom
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BetaKing97 is not online. BetaKing97
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16 May 2014 06:22 PM
Dionysos, my primary has nothing to do with the sci-fi genre.
What's more, it's based on a game(series), so is bound to seem unoriginal to outsiders.
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Shiverless is not online. Shiverless
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16 May 2014 06:23 PM
*looks at se primary*

huehue nice try.
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Komnenos is not online. Komnenos
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16 May 2014 06:25 PM
Prima Nox matches all five of these near perfectly I'd say.
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HeroMaster is not online. HeroMaster
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16 May 2014 06:26 PM
lol people not knowing the difference between an original clan and a crossover clan

newbags
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LordDionysos is not online. LordDionysos
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16 May 2014 06:27 PM
*seem*

It's unoriginal.
& before you go off spouting nonsense about how Siomete is generic which it is.
I don't plan on leading Siomete once it hopefully gets passed 2.5k members I'll be giving it away and starting an original group.

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sharky1160 is not online. sharky1160
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16 May 2014 06:27 PM
We at MB have original uniforms, granted they're based on Starship Troopers uniforms.
Because that's what we're based on.
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Noivix is not online. Noivix
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16 May 2014 06:27 PM
this wont change anything
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Shiverless is not online. Shiverless
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16 May 2014 06:27 PM
idc what it is its not original idea or name which he complained about in the thread
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DesignfulGFX is not online. DesignfulGFX
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16 May 2014 06:28 PM
sadly tl;dr
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BetaKing97 is not online. BetaKing97
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16 May 2014 06:32 PM
I didn't specifically say Siomete is unoriginal. I never heard of it before I saw your post (there's probably a reason for that).
In fact, I didn't label ANY specifics.


And guys, I did not say this forum applies to 100% of clans, I simply said MOST *SCI-FI* clans. Hence the title saying five things seriously lacking in SCI-FI clans....you know....yeah.

Therefore my *crossover* primary is not included in the list, not that it should even matter, because it's not sci-fi to begin with.
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Shihai is not online. Shihai
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16 May 2014 06:33 PM
I personally do not mind the lack of creativity on Roblox, for if anything on Roblox gets copyrighted or anything, you could seriously ruin things as great as Mass Effect or Dragon Age. (Bioware Fanboy..)
So let the creativity stay with those who truly know how to make it happen.
(Although I absolutely hate that Watch_Dogs ripoff on the frontpage, atleast rename it and use different phrases for Pete's Sake.)
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E981 is not online. E981
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16 May 2014 06:33 PM
"or the OSE ranks ("oh, no, we're based on ROME, not OSE..." No one believes that BS.). "
--^'Excuses 101; how to rip off OSE, & try to get away with it without public scorn.'
I can't tell you how many times, I've seen a clan just use the rank 'Praetor', or 'senator', or 'consul', but have it in the wrong political position according to what it actually was in Rome, & or spam a rank like "Praetor", or "Consul", with 20+ random undeserving nubs making the rank pretty much a low rank's rank.
Story of my life in the clan world. :P


"What's more, so many clan leaders are trying to be the next Vaktus or the next E981, or the next ColourTheory, or the next whatever famous clan leader here....how about this: instead of trying to be the next Vaktus/E981/CT/whoever, why not show the clan world the first YOU?"
--Exactly.
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Cirvius is not online. Cirvius
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16 May 2014 06:34 PM
OSE met all the requirements.
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commanderfury is not online. commanderfury
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16 May 2014 06:35 PM
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Komnenos is not online. Komnenos
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16 May 2014 06:36 PM
@E981

We have so much lore coming out of our mouths we even use the title CONSUL correctly!
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E981 is not online. E981
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16 May 2014 06:40 PM
"Slightly proud that even dead on this site, EW is more original than most clans"
--EW is pretty much a space Navy.
The EW logo was taken from some military clothing website.
I'de consider it borderline themed off of a navy, not entirely original in terms of theme & lore. It also has Star Trek elements to it, the uniforms & all.


"I personally think TRICON is really original with everything."
--This is a themed group as well. Mass Effet + Fallout.
Theme & lore aren't 100% original, even if the owner did think of the continuation of what the lore would be should those 2 games be crossed over.


"We at MB have original uniforms, granted they're based on Starship Troopers uniforms.
Because that's what we're based on."
--This is a themed clan as well. Starship Troopers; Roughnecks.


"Prima Nox matches all five of these near perfectly I'd say."
--This is a Warhammer themed clan. The lore & theme aren't entirely original.





The continuation of the lore you adopted then developer yourself after that could be original, or the uniforms, or the building, but the fundamental basis of what the group itself was based on is not entirely original.
Like VAK using Helghast ect, they were the first to do it, but it's still not entirely original, ect.


"lol people not knowing the difference between an original clan and a crossover clan
--Like he said, most of you people can't tell the difference between 100% original lore & theme, & basing your group off of a game or movie, or another franchise.

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E981 is not online. E981
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16 May 2014 06:41 PM
"@E981
We have so much lore coming out of our mouths we even use the title CONSUL correctly!"
--You should actually have a Co-Consul as well.
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