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Why do people think china or Russia can beat the US

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stealthyninja588 is not online. stealthyninja588
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16 May 2014 09:56 PM
'Cuz some people are crazy...
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xKodiac is not online. xKodiac
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17 May 2014 12:05 AM
Simply because people make too many assumsions without educating themselves on both militarys and the diplomatic actions that must be taken.
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TheHarlequinsDemise is not online. TheHarlequinsDemise
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17 May 2014 01:03 AM
"The U.S has over 70 million registered gun owners, with over 300 million firearms."

that's something to be ashamed of, not proud of.


china on their own would take most of the us with sheer numbers alone. their military is growing in size and strength and they have the resources to get better technology. russia's tech is absolutely putrid but their skill is actually good (see spetsnaz).

russia v us = us
china v us = china
russia and china v us = absolute annihilation of the us
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evilkiller108 is not online. evilkiller108
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17 May 2014 01:52 AM
US doesn't even have enough nukes to take out Russia and China, before anyone says that.
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crusader583 is not online. crusader583
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17 May 2014 07:30 AM
"That's something to be ashamed of, not proud of"

I myself am a gun owner, I hunt with my dad and I go to a shooting range. There is nothing wrong with having LEGAL gun ownership. If a person goes through all the checks, has no criminal background, no felonies, and has no mental issues, I'd say if they're over 18 they could purchase a firearm. This is an old argument, but legal gunowners are not the ones that cause the killings. Chicago, one of the most anti-gun cities in the U.S, has a MASSIVE murder rate that is far higher than states with the most relaxed gun laws.

Armed citizens is what started the nation, and it's what will make any invasion of the mainland a living hell for an enemy.
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PolishWingedHussars is not online. PolishWingedHussars
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17 May 2014 12:03 PM
> US doesn't even have enough nukes to take out Russia and China, before anyone says that.



yes it does.
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PolishWingedHussars is not online. PolishWingedHussars
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17 May 2014 12:05 PM
> china on their own would take most of the us with sheer numbers alone. their military is growing in size and strength and they have the resources to get better technology. russia's tech is absolutely putrid but their skill is actually good (see spetsnaz).

russia v us = us
china v us = china
russia and china v us = absolute annihilation of the us



so is the army going to cross the ocean by walking or are they going to have to face a larger and superior air force and navy? We also have resources. And as for skill the US has that too. The US has superior tech.
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PolishWingedHussars is not online. PolishWingedHussars
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17 May 2014 12:06 PM
> Which is why everything in US stores says made in China. Also:
http://static.seekingalpha.com/uploads/2010/12/26/saupload_cars_china_vs_usa.png


if china were to stop the US could make it on their own along with other countries like India.
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PolishWingedHussars is not online. PolishWingedHussars
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17 May 2014 12:07 PM
> that's something to be ashamed of, not proud of.


why would I be ashamed that the US is nearly impossible to successfully invade
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Snapping is not online. Snapping
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17 May 2014 04:58 PM
i believe people have the right to own firearms for protection, the US citizens are lucky to be able to have guns as freely as they do
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obama1337TESTING is not online. obama1337TESTING
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17 May 2014 05:07 PM
"That's the only way for USA to get to and from space, seeing as how USA suspended the space shuttle. And no, it doesn't work the other way around."

i guess you have never heard of spacex, huh? falcon 9? dragon?
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flatline115 is not online. flatline115
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17 May 2014 07:25 PM
if china were to stop the US could make it on their own along with other countries like India.
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And you assume that these businesses will just like, transfer their factories to places like India? That costs money to do and then you have to get faculty and etc. It isn't that easy. Also how are we going to make them when we do not have factories in the first place.
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TheHarlequinsDemise is not online. TheHarlequinsDemise
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17 May 2014 08:21 PM
"Armed citizens is what started the nation, and it's what will make any invasion of the mainland a living hell for an enemy."

british fighting british over native american land is how the us started.
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crusader583 is not online. crusader583
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17 May 2014 08:24 PM
"British fighting British over Native American land"
Inaccurate and generalizing.

They were not fighting over native american land, the Colonists, who didn't consider themselves British anymore, save for some Loyalists, didn't feel that the Crown and Parliament were doing much for them except treating them like second-class citizens, and they felt that the government far, far away in England was a tyranny, so they declared independence.

And those that declared independence were not professional soldiery. No, they were businessmen, fishermen, blacksmiths, carpenters, freed slaves, any citizen could have been a Patriot. So yes, this nation did originate from armed citizenry.
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PolishWingedHussars is not online. PolishWingedHussars
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18 May 2014 01:18 AM
> And you assume that these businesses will just like, transfer their factories to places like India? That costs money to do and then you have to get faculty and etc. It isn't that easy. Also how are we going to make them when we do not have factories in the first place


But bringing back the last thing you said about china using their own goods, aren't they already are? The US buys so much stuff from china that if they stopped both of their economies would be hit hard
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18 May 2014 01:40 AM
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lama321 is not online. lama321
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18 May 2014 02:04 AM
Wait, here's a crazy idea, instead of debating who would win in a theoretical war, why don't we debate the best way to avoid starting one.
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RoDuck3D is not online. RoDuck3D
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18 May 2014 02:35 AM
yes because im really afraid of plastic tanks (basing this off chinese products)
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JayyxC is not online. JayyxC
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18 May 2014 02:43 AM
China is the only country that would have a chance, at beating us. But they would never attempt to fight us.
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sekretaryuk is not online. sekretaryuk
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20 May 2014 01:30 PM
Fun Note:

Russia and China have been building a stronger "relationship" recently.
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