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Why do people think china or Russia can beat the US

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PolishWingedHussars is not online. PolishWingedHussars
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16 May 2014 05:19 PM
The US has the Best military in the world
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evilkiller108 is not online. evilkiller108
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16 May 2014 05:22 PM
Because they rely on both of those countries.
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PolishWingedHussars is not online. PolishWingedHussars
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16 May 2014 05:23 PM
And vice versa ^
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evilkiller108 is not online. evilkiller108
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16 May 2014 05:25 PM
China trades with enough countries to rely on itself, and Russia never really relies on USA for anything.
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PolishWingedHussars is not online. PolishWingedHussars
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16 May 2014 05:27 PM
China relies heavily on the US, we are the biggest buyer of their goods. Also what does the US rely for on Russia
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evilkiller108 is not online. evilkiller108
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16 May 2014 05:29 PM
To get to and from space, you absolute moron. You should move out of your country if you think NASA is competant in any way. Russia even quit their space program thing because of the sanctions USA put on Russia. And it doesn't matter if China relies on the US for that tiny reason, they can support themselves.
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PolishWingedHussars is not online. PolishWingedHussars
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16 May 2014 05:32 PM
> To get to and from space, you absolute moron. You should move out of your country if you think NASA is competant in any way. Russia even quit their space program thing because of the sanctions USA put on Russia. And it doesn't matter if China relies on the US for that tiny reason, they can support themselves.


So the only place to get to space from is Russia? That's news to me

If china can support them selfs with out the US then the US can also support them selfs
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evilkiller108 is not online. evilkiller108
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16 May 2014 05:34 PM
That's the only way for USA to get to and from space, seeing as how USA suspended the space shuttle. And no, it doesn't work the other way around.
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PolishWingedHussars is not online. PolishWingedHussars
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16 May 2014 05:36 PM
> That's the only way for USA to get to and from space, seeing as how USA suspended the space shuttle. And no, it doesn't work the other way around.



So the US can't use other countries to get into space?




And yes it does work the other way around
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evilkiller108 is not online. evilkiller108
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16 May 2014 05:36 PM
I want you to look up every other country that has a space program, and come back to me.
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PolishWingedHussars is not online. PolishWingedHussars
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16 May 2014 05:39 PM
Ok done. I don't see the magic barrier that prevents the US and other countries using other countries besides Russia
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evilkiller108 is not online. evilkiller108
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16 May 2014 05:39 PM
Lolno, actually look it up.
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flatline115 is not online. flatline115
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16 May 2014 05:40 PM
China relies heavily on the US,
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No. There are ~2 Billion people in China you do not think they could consume those products?
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PolishWingedHussars is not online. PolishWingedHussars
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16 May 2014 05:40 PM
Still no magic barrier.
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PolishWingedHussars is not online. PolishWingedHussars
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16 May 2014 05:42 PM
> No. There are ~2 Billion people in China you do not think they could consume those products?

I don't see what you mean. Can you word it differently please
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flatline115 is not online. flatline115
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16 May 2014 06:25 PM
I don't see what you mean. Can you word it differently please
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China is very self sufficient in production - and with such a large pop they would not need the USA should they choose to embargo them as China would consume the products themselves.
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balakhninv396 is not online. balakhninv396
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16 May 2014 07:22 PM
The US can be overpowered by China.

statisically, if they combined with the Russian military, they'd be a guarenteed win.
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Snapping is not online. Snapping
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16 May 2014 07:46 PM
trust when i say that Russia military not so good

Everything outside european side of russia not good, dirty and poor

most units are conscripted, meaning they are serving under requirement of government and would probably not fight at good (US is volunteer, yes?)

so I, as a russian from St. Petersburg, would say that russia's army is inferior to the US, and we need to step up our game
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balakhninv396 is not online. balakhninv396
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16 May 2014 07:51 PM
@Snapping

Precisely why modernisation of the East, and reformations of the military is underway in our country. I didn't say Russia alone would beat the US militarily, but they would have a good chance if attacked at defense, seeing as the US must cross oceans to reach us, and has to buy equipment to suit our terrain, such as camouflage, but, they do not have many funds to afford this, so we could be in a good position for defense against a United States invasion. However, China combined with the Russian military, can definetly beat the US in a war. A combined strength of navy can challenge the US one, and they can also do a pretty well job of damaging there economy. China has the technology and manpower to overpower the US.
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Snapping is not online. Snapping
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16 May 2014 07:57 PM
@bala

Russia in defensive war is a monster, we have never been defeated modern times
n@zis did not defeat us
napoleon/france did not defeat us

our ally the winter is our greatest weapon, but im afraid a russian offensive one on one with US is too much for us

with china then yes we would win but it would not surprise me if all involved suffered hevy losses
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16 May 2014 08:04 PM
USA used to be independent when it comes to space transportation (Saturn V, Shuttles) but all of the projects mentioned were shut down. Right now USA can't get into space. Too bad.
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PolishWingedHussars is not online. PolishWingedHussars
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16 May 2014 09:13 PM
> The US can be overpowered by China.

statisically, if they combined with the Russian military, they'd be a guarenteed win.



have fun getting to the US mainland
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16 May 2014 09:14 PM
> China is very self sufficient in production - and with such a large pop they would not need the USA should they choose to embargo them as China would consume the products themselves.


The US also has a large production force.
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crusader583 is not online. crusader583
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16 May 2014 09:53 PM
The U.S has over 70 million registered gun owners, with over 300 million firearms.


Have fun taking the entire mainland.
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flatline115 is not online. flatline115
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16 May 2014 09:55 PM
The US also has a large production force.
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Which is why everything in US stores says made in China. Also:
http://static.seekingalpha.com/uploads/2010/12/26/saupload_cars_china_vs_usa.png
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