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Re: Officially now Pay-To-Win

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UnknownAssassins is not online. UnknownAssassins
Joined: 26 Oct 2010
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10 May 2014 09:57 AM
Now, I know this is pretty late and may have already been said before but I feel roblox is finally at the stage that it can be called a Pay-To-Win game.

Roblox was a free game a long while back, and then it went to a free game with subscriptions. Now now, lets face it. Every game now has game passes, In-Game purchases and like anything to do with buying things with robux is included.

Now some may argue that you can earn robux through methods like the TC and trading, but I'm not referring to die-hard game makers and profit makers. I'm referring to your average roblox user, the kid who sees that he can get a OP gun inside a game and makes a purchase just so he can get it and win, which is the reason I say 'Pay-To-Win'


(I wish roblox had an actual forum with BB and stuff!)
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Ovro is not online. Ovro
Joined: 17 Mar 2013
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10 May 2014 10:03 AM

no
On the count of 3, everyone go run back to their fantasy
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EpicGamer21 is not online. EpicGamer21
Joined: 24 Feb 2011
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10 May 2014 10:05 AM
why cant we earn tix based on how we play in-game.
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superstrongman1358 is not online. superstrongman1358
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10 May 2014 10:06 AM
No
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wearebots1234 is not online. wearebots1234
Joined: 25 Sep 2011
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10 May 2014 10:06 AM
Roblox is not a pay to win. sure there are a handfull of developers who may make you have to pay to get certain items to win or to unlock parts of map or so on, but most developers only do it to add a little bit extra experience or let you level quicker.
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crazyracer126710 is not online. crazyracer126710
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10 May 2014 10:13 AM
We couldn't make much robux from TC, due to the fact that ROBLOX CEO's started getting money hungry and decided to make it so you get less robux from TC. It's a fact ROBLOX has became a Pay2Win now. If they raised our daily Tix pay out to at least 20 tix or more, it would make it a bit better. Epically due to the price floor.
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gordonrox24 is not online. gordonrox24
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10 May 2014 10:13 AM
I very rarely make purchases from games (mainly because I like to save my money for other things) and I've not overly struggled through games. You most certainly can play games successfully and have fun without paying a cent.
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ieyedude is not online. ieyedude
Joined: 07 Feb 2010
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10 May 2014 10:16 AM
How is ROBLOX Pay-to-win?

First, your not even winning anything, it is a site.

Second, those games on here are just idiots who wants some numbers on their profile.

Third, plenty of games are great, without microstransactions.

Your stupidity makes me mad.
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patrizl001 is not online. patrizl001
Joined: 17 Apr 2009
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10 May 2014 10:29 AM
1:you have no idea what pay to win is.

2:ROBUX is not needed to enjoy roblox.

3:its impossible for a website to be pay to win.
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UnknownAssassins is not online. UnknownAssassins
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10 May 2014 10:51 AM
Anyone posting about how a website cannot be pay to win is clearly be-siding the point.

Roblox is not just a website and you clearly know that you're just trying to act smart in front of your beloved forum. Roblox is a game, hence why they have their own client as all games do. And most, if not all games on the front page have a pay feature to help users win the game. I think a game can be classed as pay-to-win if some features are accessible only if you pay. And since most of the games on the front page at the moment allow winning to be easier if you pay, that puts it under the category of pay to win.

Roblox in a whole is a community, but for its users; Take note the forums are probably less than half of that community. But anyway for its users its a game to play and lets face it. Some games require you to pay to be able to play them, some have in-game purchases for upgrades, some are built around buying things. Some allow you to pay for things to speed up; EX, Tycoons.

How is a game, where MOST of the features require payment, NOT pay to win?

I'm not saying roblox is a bad game, nor Am I saying you can't do anything without paying. I'm just saying its a Pay-To-Win game hidden in the illusion of free to play.
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roozie3 is not online. roozie3
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10 May 2014 10:55 AM
The definition of pay to win is
Games that let you buy better gear or allow you to make better items then everyone else at a faster rate and then makes the game largely unbalanced even for people who have skill in the game without paying.
No roblox game makes you pay to win
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Spectrabox is not online. Spectrabox
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10 May 2014 10:56 AM
It isn't the fault of Roblox that some game devs have no concept of game-balance. Roblox is simply a platform to make games, if the game devs decide to make it pay to win it is on them, not roblox.
If you look at the mad murderer you can see a good example of balanced transactions. Accessories and knife skins do nothing except cosmetics and the abilities are side-grades, not upgrades. I have won many times without anything bought in that game.
Then there are the games like you said, but keep in mind they are PLAYER MADE. Players have the choice to do what they want with their games. There are thousands of games on Roblox, just find one that is balanced that you like.
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meapie is not online. meapie
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10 May 2014 11:00 AM
We're not EA we haven't gotten to club penguin and mass effect 3. You can have a great time while not caring about appearence. We still have free events like egg hunt halloween and winter games. Roblox just needs money to stay around.
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UnknownAssassins is not online. UnknownAssassins
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10 May 2014 11:00 AM
I understand what you mean by saying, Roblox as a whole is not pay to win. But I'm sure if they as a whole had the choice to make it like that, they'd go with it for the money.

The point I was trying to get out is that since game passes came out, VIP is sold a lot more than when people just had to buy shirts. And VIP does make some games unbalanced.

As a whole ROBLOX is not pay to win, the Original post was slightly wrong by saying so but your average roblox user plays roblox games, and they're slowly becoming P2W as they hand out VIP's which give OP equipment.
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ieyedude is not online. ieyedude
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10 May 2014 11:00 AM
Anyone posting about how a website cannot be pay to win is clearly be-siding the point.
-No, we are not, you said ROBLOX itself is P2W.

Roblox is not just a website and you clearly know that you're just trying to act smart in front of your beloved forum.
-I don't even forum that much..

Roblox is a game, hence why they have their own client as all games do. And most, if not all games on the front page have a pay feature to help users win the game. I think a game can be classed as pay-to-win if some features are accessible only if you pay. And since most of the games on the front page at the moment allow winning to be easier if you pay, that puts it under the category of pay to win.

-GET THIS IN YOUR DAMNED HEAD. ROBLOX. IS. NOT. A. GAME. A GAME IS MURDER MYSTERY, WITH THE ROBLOX ENGINE.


Roblox in a whole is a community, but for its users; Take note the forums are probably less than half of that community. But anyway for its users its a game to play and lets face it. Some games require you to pay to be able to play them, some have in-game purchases for upgrades, some are built around buying things. Some allow you to pay for things to speed up; EX, Tycoons.

-I know about the community, sense 2009. It has only gotten larger, and the age has lowered. Tycoons aren't even popular anymore, and most of them didn't even have P2W elements.

How is a game, where MOST of the features require payment, NOT pay to win?

-If your referring to ROBLOX, it isn't a game, once again. But your defition of P2W in general is INCORRECT.

-P2W Is when you pay to go farther, to skip levels, etc. Candy Crush, Clash of Clans, Farm Heroes (and all the other horrid P2W scams that Candy Crush makes,) are examples of P2W. So is Injustice for mobile.

I'm not saying roblox is a bad game, nor Am I saying you can't do anything without paying. I'm just saying its a Pay-To-Win game hidden in the illusion of free to play.

-I.. I don't even..


So, if your referring to BC being a pay-to-win, it freaking isn't, IDIOT.

You buy BC for some pixels, for some numbers, which I personally enjoy. You can STILL play on the ROBLOX engine. You can STILL build games. You can STILL DO EVERYTHING besides get thousands of clothes you don't need, and join horrible BC-online games.


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UnknownAssassins is not online. UnknownAssassins
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10 May 2014 11:01 AM
@meapie

I also see what you mean, but I've seen FTP games stick around just working on donations.
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UnknownAssassins is not online. UnknownAssassins
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10 May 2014 11:03 AM
@ieyedude

To be honest, I don't get why you're attempting to Be-little the post, I was simply stating an opinion and you take it into your job to attempt to turn this opinion into something else and start a argument. Clearly you can't deal with a simple discussion, and this wont ever be a forum with a forum community like you.
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ieyedude is not online. ieyedude
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10 May 2014 11:05 AM
"To be honest, I don't get why you're attempting to Be-little the post, I was simply stating an opinion and you take it into your job to attempt to turn this opinion into something else and start a argument. Clearly you can't deal with a simple discussion, and this wont ever be a forum with a forum community like you."



Aren't you now the one sparking arguments? I wasn't arguing, I was stating REAL FACTS and how YOUR "FACTS" are FALSE.

Once again, you didn't even read the entire post. I don't even forum much in ATR, and never plan to.
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Markolaptop is not online. Markolaptop
Joined: 17 Apr 2012
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10 May 2014 11:08 AM
OMG HOW MANY TIMES DO WE HAVE TO TELL THIS SIT ABOUT THE TC????????????

TC i ruined cause of us who trade robux to tix and buy with robux the only way to lower tc is buying tix hats/shirts/pants/whatever
Its our fault not Mods
TC is acting automaticly and if mods reset it it maybe ruin economy in a blink of an eye
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UnknownAssassins is not online. UnknownAssassins
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10 May 2014 11:09 AM
I never implied anything I said was a fact, I voiced an opinion on what roblox is. I'm sure that's what you can usually find on a forum.

Honestly, before posting this I knew this would happen. And someone would flame.
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coolrichthealt is not online. coolrichthealt
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10 May 2014 11:09 AM
I can't afford crap, yes. You need BC to basically, enjoy the game.

Roblox terminated me, now i lost all my goods, clothes and now back to being called noob, comment spamming and more. I believe this is what users are experiencing.
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ieyedude is not online. ieyedude
Joined: 07 Feb 2010
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10 May 2014 11:11 AM
Im not even FLAMING.


Jesus Christ, are you 7?

And god damnit, IE, why are you captalising Christ? I am a atheist, for gods sakes.

....



Anyway, you really need to just.. stop trying. After I replied, you basically voiced yourself like you were stating true facts.

You are pointing out the same things over and over again. Just stop.
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coolrichthealt is not online. coolrichthealt
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10 May 2014 11:13 AM
Not this again....
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BoxMessage12 is not online. BoxMessage12
Joined: 03 Jan 2013
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06 Jun 2014 12:57 PM
I have to agree whit this..You have to pay now to change your username and its 1,000 Robux!!!! If it was like 40 or 20 tix it wouldnt be that bad but that much for changing a simple username? Theres a load of games who do that for free
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adrien99 is not online. adrien99
Joined: 01 Aug 2007
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06 Jun 2014 01:01 PM
"If they raised our daily Tix pay out to at least 20 tix or more, it would make it a bit better. Epically due to the price floor."

you obviously dont know how the economy works
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