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Re: [VL] Confronting Accusations Against Me

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shortPinman is not online. shortPinman
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08 May 2014 11:06 PM
Just reason everything.
Got demoted from High Council to Council to Marshal to Diplomat in a day, over the course of mere hours.

Accusations:

1. Telling me to vote for me as owner in the next senate meeting

2. Cussing out an Ambassador

3. Conspiring against Scorch

4. Being cause of arguments with other HRs


Overview: Ok so essentially I have been serving VL for years now with so many different leaders and have always been the most active HR and considered an asset to the group due to actually being capable. Before my recent demotions, I was High Council, right below owner. Now lets think here, back when Connor owned the group if I never resigned as 3IC I would have gotten VL instead of Ladymoo. Her era was about 3 or 4 eras ago. Now lets think again, LordBadler was asked by many people to give me VL instead of Scorch because I literally revived VL almost entirely myself and because unlike scorch I didn't own VL yet. Last time he owned VL he kept it nearly dead. Aside from all this I remained and kept loyal, helping further improve things and advising him on just about everything since he apparently trusted my advise but not me.



Accusation 1: So essentially Ladymoo/Distinctful tells me there's probably going to be a vote for the next owner who will then be mentored by scorch for a bit at the next senate meeting. She tells me most people are going to vote for skot or connor. I personally didn't believe most would vote for skot over me since they all know me better and I was on their side during the whole ladymoo thing. Anyway, I go around asking who people would vote for. (Don't feel like giving full names but will say who I asked). I asked Prox, Brandon, Donald, iEvap, and Hoof. Seriously the only people I remember asking. Scorch claims I asked them to vote for me since apparently one of them says I did. I asked "Who would you vote for as the next owner of VL" and three of them said they'd vote for me. Prox would pick himself and iEvap said "Obviously connor". So let me get this straight, me asking for who they'd vote for is the same as asking them to vote for me? Many of them I even said I wouldn't care if they didn't say me, I just wanted to know. Scorch needs to actually listen to the facts rather than ignoring me when I try to defend myself. I did ask connor to support me though, but that's because I knew he wanted to be owner and I wanted to see if he'd be a good friend and support me instead. He said no so I left him alone after trying to convince him a little bit.


Accusation 2: Ok so this accusation is true. I cussed out Ambassador Krat, owner of The Gallantry Force. Essentially he was annoying me a ton. He trolls me daily, constantly acts like he's my friend, all while heavily exaggerating everything I say to turn it into some big conspiracy I apparently have against scorch(more on this later). Finally I thought, enough is enough. I confronted him and he's basically like "So? So what if I completely tried to sabotage you and it worked?". So at this point I completely lost it and cussed him out then blocked him on steam. Sick of this kid, really am. This doesn't justify me being demoted from High Council to Marshal/Diplomat. Maybe a stern warning, but really... This same Ambassador has been causing problems with many other VL HRs as well so he should really be gotten rid of.


Accusation 3: Okay so this one is irritating and humorous at the same time. Scorch thinks that I've been trying to "Conspire" against him. His words, not mine. He says I staged a "coup" and am trying to convince everyone to go against him. To be honest, the only one doing that is himself since he is pointlessly lying to get rid of me. Either that or he's insane. Regardless, the only people I ever talked sort of negatively about him two are Ladymoo and Krat. Ok so lets see here.... both ARE NOT EVEN ACTUAL VL MEMBERS. I'm not turning any VL against him and everything I said to him I also told him to his face. Not like I'm talking behind his back here like he claims I am. He needs to get a grip on reality.


Accusation 4: Okay so throughout Scorch's era so far I have been in two arguments that I can remember. Wait make that 3, 3 arguments. 1. A high rank placed me somewhere for something completely stupid so I argued a "little bit" about it and we completely moved on afterward. Actually forgot about this one. 2. I argued with skot privately about something and both of us were being very silly and irrational, we moved on quickly after. 3. The most recent one, today, was with a high rank at my training who refused to fight instead of run while we were sword training. I told him he could actually fight and try to kill the opponent or leave my training. He chose neither so I forced him out. This turned into a big thing since krat brought scorch in, part of why I lost it and cussed him out. So essentially a minor thing that would have worked itself out became a big deal that I believe scorch thought was important enough to discuss at the next senate meeting. Ok so two of the arguments both sides moved on in. The third I was in the right since no one should go to training and not listen to the trainer. So yay for me "causing" arguments. Overall the people of VL love me.






So lets recap. I got demoted from High Council to Marshal/Diplomat and the only true accusation against me is that I cussed out a diplomat that had it coming. GG Scorch, so glad you played.





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shortPinman is not online. shortPinman
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08 May 2014 11:09 PM
*Accusations:

1. Telling people to vote for me as owner in the next senate meeting*



There will probably be many other typos in this, wrote this late at night. Am tired.
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shortPinman is not online. shortPinman
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08 May 2014 11:11 PM
*wouldn't vote for skot
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Godofwar2957 is not online. Godofwar2957
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08 May 2014 11:14 PM
wat
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Devactivus is not online. Devactivus
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08 May 2014 11:14 PM
tl;dr and what does this have to do with C&G?
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Rectifying is not online. Rectifying
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08 May 2014 11:15 PM
Good
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shortPinman is not online. shortPinman
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08 May 2014 11:17 PM
@Dev, C&Gers can ignore it if they want. This is just a good way of showing VL tons of information in a group shout since scorch disabled my posting and can just delete that.
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shortPinman is not online. shortPinman
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08 May 2014 11:19 PM
@GodofWar, I'm just as confused as you.

The only bad thing I've done to scorch is basically cussed him out after he punished me for accusations against me and tried to ignore my responses. I probably shouldn't have cussed him out, but that doesn't excuse how he wronged me and I'm honestly sick of him trying to start drama with me. He did the conspiracy thing much earlier while I was trying to focus on VL winning a war with Imperium Empire. At that point I just gave up on the war since clearly scorch didn't care about it.
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shortPinman is not online. shortPinman
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08 May 2014 11:22 PM
Oh he also says it's just a "Suspension" but is now a demotion because I refuse to let him abuse me and keep arguing my case with pure logic. He also says if I keep it up he will exile me. Yay for corruption.

I want connor to get VL, whether connor sides with me or not I know he's not corrupt or insane.
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shortPinman is not online. shortPinman
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08 May 2014 11:23 PM
I'm also the leader of one of VL's allies, an allied clan that got very little thanks for supplying many elite soldiers to VL in their two wars. Got little thanks since I owned it, apparently his HRs who own allied clans are less respected than his allied clan owners who do nothing in VL except troll everyone.
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dracomanx is not online. dracomanx
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08 May 2014 11:24 PM
Shortpinman, dracon supports you.
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shortPinman is not online. shortPinman
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08 May 2014 11:24 PM
#Support
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shortPinman is not online. shortPinman
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08 May 2014 11:25 PM
FTR, this thread is not against VL. Saying this before someone claims I'm insulting VL or something. This is entirely about what scorch is doing, VL is a great clan. Not VL's fault that it can't get a good leader.
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Wakrinc is not online. Wakrinc
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08 May 2014 11:28 PM
Just give VL to short already people.

How many bad leaders will it take you people.

I kept track so far:


Ladymoo
Caerulea
LordBadler
Scorch
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DeathNightmare17 is not online. DeathNightmare17
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08 May 2014 11:30 PM
support111
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dracomanx is not online. dracomanx
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08 May 2014 11:33 PM
Valor legion will be punished for this
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Kratanon is not online. Kratanon
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09 May 2014 05:47 AM
'@Accusation 2'
You're mad just because I didn't support you in your admin abuse against your HRs. Perhaps I should load out ALL the proof? Because, you can CLEARLY tell I used to have respect for you. Lost it till you abused your power and I reported it to the Chancellor. You're quite sad.

Out steam logs: (This continues from banning a VL member for not sword fighting the way he wants. Witnesses: Kami, Field, Rex and I.)

http://www.roblox.com/Forum/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=133103468

I can provide pictures of you talking behind many HRs. You should be removed because you have many faces and are hypocritical. For example:
"Skot is a dumbass"
Yet, you complain about never getting SN and RNW. Seems logical as to why,
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ValiantCorsair is not online. ValiantCorsair
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09 May 2014 05:49 AM
"Okay so"
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Kratanon is not online. Kratanon
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09 May 2014 05:51 AM
I suggest you go to the forum link I provided to see what I actually said. My "so" was directed at him complaining about why I brought Scorch into his corruption.
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ValiantCorsair is not online. ValiantCorsair
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09 May 2014 05:54 AM
I wasn't referring to you -_-
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CoIonelSnow is not online. CoIonelSnow
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09 May 2014 05:59 AM
You seem to be the worst choice. You argue a lot and you make loud noises. Let's keep it like the Russians when they first landed to the moon. You're a bad example of good High Rank. You're just butthurt. It's going to pass in a few minutes and then you'll get over it.
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TheLittleGoomba is not online. TheLittleGoomba
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09 May 2014 06:04 AM
nobody cares

the little goomba
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Scorch6429 is not online. Scorch6429
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09 May 2014 06:12 AM
Short lost his chance at receiving VL when he showed me how immature he is when it comes to this sort of thing.

-VL Imperator
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bidoof77 is not online. bidoof77
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09 May 2014 06:17 AM
Good job scorch, keep this vermin away from power.
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RaidingCorp is not online. RaidingCorp
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09 May 2014 06:17 AM
tl;dr
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