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Re: OSE was never a good clan

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z5151 is not online. z5151
Joined: 30 Dec 2007
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06 May 2014 02:34 AM
e9 only used it as a way to feed his ever so hungry ego. There was no structure within the group at all. Everything was as chaotic as can be. His attempt at a roblox "government" was just endless bickering and moronic arguments. There was no well developed technology; just blinding GUI's, an annoying and useless gas mask, and mesh spam as far as the eye can see. The only tech that worked was scripted by me, before he exiled me from my second in command position in OVA and started saying he was a "master scripter who developed everything" because he didn't want his members to think that someone else was better than him.

OSE never accomplished anything in the clan world. Every clan e981 would declare war on would quickly grow tired of his constant immature taunts, and his C&G rants every time something didn't go his way. They made no innovations at all, except proving that stupid people like to group up in a cult following on roblox, just like they do in real life (see: kool-aid drinkers)

Tl;dr: e981 has a classic case of small dog syndrome, and his clan was garbage.
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itstimeforadventure is not online. itstimeforadventure
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06 May 2014 02:35 AM
Oh I thought you were cool.
Gunna back away now.

Newly claimed assistant overseer of Salt mine production, Under Outlaw and Sadcamp. I also manage the beans ;)
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Altair55 is not online. Altair55
Joined: 28 May 2008
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06 May 2014 02:36 AM
nobody who knows what they're talking about thinks OSE was good, they just had cool places
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warpendeshia is not online. warpendeshia
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06 May 2014 02:36 AM
lol that jungle base was so badly scripted the terminal didnt even work
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CrymsonSlayer is not online. CrymsonSlayer
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06 May 2014 02:39 AM
haters gonna hate
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BenBonez is not online. BenBonez
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06 May 2014 02:40 AM
I hope you're prepare for E981 posting paragraphs filled with idiocy now.

@Altair55

"they just had cool places"

Agreeably but only in terms of ambient and immersion to a scifi place other than that they had nothing innovative or beyond the standard gameplay
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BenBonez is not online. BenBonez
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06 May 2014 02:41 AM
Oh and prepare for all those kiddos who support E981 merely because they think he is smart by responding with endless paragraphs to even the stupidest of arguments.
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itstimeforadventure is not online. itstimeforadventure
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06 May 2014 02:43 AM
Honestly I have only formed an opinion off of other peoples post.
I view E9 as intelligent in the way he breaks down things. Not that he will write a 5 paragraph post about how stupid Z51 is, or how your building is no different. Etc.

Newly claimed assistant overseer of Salt mine production, Under Outlaw and Sadcamp. I also manage the beans ;)
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BenBonez is not online. BenBonez
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06 May 2014 02:48 AM
You haven't argued with him before then, he literally spews out paragraphs of unrelated crap.

Like that one time where he tried to make a point how 3d modelling is so much more difficult by showing of a screenshot where he had opened the same model several times in different windows to give of the illusion. Still cracks me up lmao
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z5151 is not online. z5151
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06 May 2014 02:49 AM
"Honestly I have only formed an opinion off of other peoples post.
I view E9 as intelligent in the way he breaks down things. Not that he will write a 5 paragraph post about how stupid Z51 is, or how your building is no different. Etc. "

If you've had the pleasure of never having to meet e981, I wish I was you. Never in my life have I found someone as egotistical and self obsessed as e981 was. I started OVA with him (which eventually became OSE) and I've never seen anyone lie as much as he did. It got so bad that you eventually had to assume that everything he was saying was false. To top it off, he wasn't even a good liar. The majority of his claims were physically impossible, and anyone with the basic ability to infer saw straight through them.
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BenBonez is not online. BenBonez
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06 May 2014 02:50 AM
I can't wait until E981 gets on here and spams his cool BenBonez memes he put so much effort in again rofl
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1Riblock1 is not online. 1Riblock1
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06 May 2014 02:51 AM
I don't know why, but all the positive attention he got, and now people who knew him explaining how much of an 455hole he is has high comedic factor.
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Altair55 is not online. Altair55
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06 May 2014 02:53 AM
3d modeling is so easy, at least when it comes to creating terrain and what not. i have immense respect for people who model weapons and stuff though because that's something i wouldn't have the patience to do
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1Riblock1 is not online. 1Riblock1
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06 May 2014 02:54 AM
They just have experience.
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z5151 is not online. z5151
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06 May 2014 02:58 AM
At least from what I've seen posted on C&G, e9 is really really bad at 3d modeling. The whole point of moving from roblox to a 3d modeling program is the extreme freedom of detail. All his 3d model renders are flat and square, with no surface texturing or asymmetrical properties.

It's kind of pointless for him to 3d model because he could design all of that stuff in roblox.
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DieSoft is not online. DieSoft
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06 May 2014 03:01 AM
Watch out, z5. You don't want to wake the weight lifter, just the pure weight of e9's super long incoming reply can crush a man.

O.o
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BenBonez is not online. BenBonez
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06 May 2014 03:03 AM
And don't forget his empty spacer lines that will deprive you of your oxygen.




















> Gg.
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DieSoft is not online. DieSoft
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06 May 2014 03:05 AM
The "Gg" is like his final blow, powerful enough to kill a blue whale in one go.

:o
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z5151 is not online. z5151
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06 May 2014 03:07 AM
■▬⊂=-҉Ξ҉-=⊃▬▬:▬▬::▬▬:▬▬⊂=-҉Ξ҉-=⊃▬■ How can we forget his innovative and totally not excessive text decorations? ■▬⊂=-҉Ξ҉-=⊃▬▬:▬▬::▬▬:▬▬⊂=-҉Ξ҉-=⊃▬■
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1Riblock1 is not online. 1Riblock1
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06 May 2014 03:11 AM
I'm actually hoping he posts here
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z5151 is not online. z5151
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06 May 2014 03:13 AM
"I'm actually hoping he posts here"

He searches his name a few times every day so he will see this without a doubt
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E981 is not online. E981
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06 May 2014 04:56 AM
Augh, another unprovoked random flamer, & of all the times that it could have happened, almost 4:00AM in the morning.
Alright, -_- :P here goes nothing..;


"e9 only used it as a way to feed his ever so hungry ego."
--Is a simple statement, no proof via images, URL anything of the sort.
Without anything mentioned above, statement=null void of truth,
empty words, all of them.


"There was no structure within the group at all."
--Great, considering you were never in it first hand.
Or even at all.
I mean maybe if you spied on my group, using an alternate account,
& somehow managed to get in, you'd have some shred of truth backing you,
but you didn't even do that.
That's literally the lowest level, of having first hand experience in the group,
& this wasn't even obtainable for you.


"Everything was as chaotic as can be. "
--Great, considering you were never in it first hand. [2]
Duplicate statement. Reference previous statement for greater detail.


"His attempt at a roblox "government" was just endless bickering and moronic arguments."
--"roblox government", Senate.*
The Senate holds absolutely no power.
All groups are 100% autocratic, even if it is claimed to be democratic.
The only power it has, is the power I give it/let it have.
It serves no more purpose other than to enrich the lore & backstory of the group.
It's 1 & single defining purpose, is to 'simply exist, a committee that in fights'.
That's what an empire does.
It in-fights, back stabs, & scrambles for attention & power from the one person who holes supreme executive power.
Which is/was me, or my persona "Decimus E. Vyycan".


"There was no well developed technology;"
--http://www.roblox.com/--item?id=101819911 . It's free as well.
If there 'never was developed technology', than what are you complaining about.
Everyone else should know that there wasn't any real technology in this group.
Perhaps you should go complain about another group's non-existant technology,
like UCR, or TRA.
Oh but wait, it's obvious they do not have technology, & that everybody knows this.
So it would be a moot point to do so, so you should go after a group that through your non-publicized point of view 'has nice designs, building' & what not,
that if these people were to ever move into the area of 'scripting', you would have nothing left for yourself, because let's see, 'these people are just too good at everything, & that's not fair'.
So now folks, we have to spark controversy about groups that clearly, have nice developed technology & what not, the fact of which does not directly or indirectly effect anyone on this forum, including people like z5151 both politically, or personally,
but we have to go out of our way to make a point about it anyhow.
Final end-all result, he feels threatened by me & my group's abilities, so he must try to defraud my group on 1 or more ends of the spectrum in order to show the public that he is superior in this area, thus making himself look larger.

In all honesty z5, I don't have any problems with you personally,
anyone you know, or even any of the many groups you have run, or anything.
You going out of your way to spark controversy about me & my groups, can be interpreted as aggressive in nature, & were entirely initiated by yourself, towards myself.
Hopefully you understand that this can only escalate.
The fact of which, if you just decided to type this forum up, but not psot it,
& be on with your day, would have never happened, in effect, the escalation, & everything there after, would not have happened either.
tl;dr format, if you didn't go out of your way to post this, this never would have happened, & z5-e9 relations would be perfectly fine.
You started this. It's all on you.
I have no problem if you choose to retract any & all statements, I really don't.
I'm quite impartial to all of this roblox forum flame business.


"just blinding GUI's"
--GUI size format is subject to your monitor specs.
The GUIs are different sizes on every monitor.
You can no more predict the size from one person's monitor, to the next,
than you can tell just from being in game with another user what their exact pc specs are.
From my own monitor, I calculated that only 60% of the screen total screen width to length, or less was taken up by all GUIs, assuming you're referencing the Meropia GUIs, which were also transferred to the PL maps.
All of which are considerably old, by today's standards.


"an annoying and useless gas mask"
--Well, be sure to press "=", next time you're in one of my old maps to drop your gas mask, & you'll see how effective loosing 2% health every second is when trying to besiege or raid one of my forts.
Given the choice, I'de imagine you'd gladly wear the mask in a raid,
as opposed to not raid at all, forfit a raid, or boycott my maps in protest.
But hey, if the script was as broken as you say,
you wouldn't need the cosmetic value of the gas mask on your character's head,
you'd be able to attack my maps, anywhere, anytime, any way. :)


"and mesh spam as far as the eye can see."
--http://www.roblox.com/--place?id=18924289 .
Well, the description of this was made for the benefit of people like you.
Side note; All parts on this game are meshes.
Video games, by definition, are nothing but interactive mesh compositions.
Hey, you hate me? You hate the makers of roblox, starcraft, world of warcract, & every other tripe A game title you've ever seen.
Unless of course you don't believe wedges, or block meshes aren't, 3d models.
Which would make you a fool. We don't think you're a fool Z. So which is it?


"The only tech that worked was scripted by me"
--Updates were quick to break those.
In either light, those scripts are years old.
You scripts didn't spark general controversy on this forum back then,
& your scripts don't spark general controversy now.
Either way, pretty irrelevant if you ask me.


"before he exiled me from my second in command position in OVA and started saying he was a "master scripter who developed everything""
--One would think, that before crafting a lie such as this, that one would make sure it wouldn't be easily dispelled.
Now see if there's anyone you're going to believe, who has a reputation of technology development tied up with his name, it would be me.
"Hello, I am E981, & I do not script."
There you go, feel free to screenshot that, & place it anywhere.
There you go, consider this lie, entirely dispelled.
If I said that now, openly, & publicly,
why wouldn't it be just as true as when I said it back then?
I mean in all honesty, if you were to ask 1 person, out of all the people you could ask & try to get an entirely reliable answer from, who can tell you if I know how to script or not if you ask, is me.
Either I lie, & it's proven wrong, or I outright say I can't script.
But wait, I just did that.
so why would E981 go out of his way to steal somebody else's things, & claim credit, when he has plenty of original things he made himself, to legitimately take credit for?
Well I mean, gray matter should solve that one.


"because he didn't want his members to think that someone else was better than him."
--You script vehicles 7 such, I do not.
It is not within any of my interests on this game.
I do not come onto this game, to program, or code anything.
There, I just said that I do not code at all.
Which by default, even if you know a very very basic 4 lines of code,
for any kind of script, means that you do script, & I do not.
in effect this would make you better by default.

Hello folks, imagine that, E981 just openly admitted someone else has a skill that he does not.
But wait, this other guy says that E981 tried to pull the wool over a large number of people's eye's, that he thinks he's better than everyone else & tried to convince everyone else of this.
Well gee, considering the fact that E981 just publicly admitted that he does not script, thus by default making a large number of other users 'better',
& someone else who is not E981, who does not speak for E981 nor controls the words that comes out of E981's mouth, says that E981 did, does, & still remains to this day, 'acts as a superior scripter', says otherwise?
Well, they both can't be true.
But given the choice, I'de like to pick the admitted confession one could call 'definitive solid evidence of E9's persective on the subject',
over something that has no definitive proof to back it.


"OSE never accomplished anything in the clan world."
--http://www.roblox.com/Catalog/Lists.aspx?m=TopFavorites&c=9&t=AllTime&d=All&q=ose
5 pages of places made by people who clearly, must have thought; 'OSE has no redeemable value what so ever'.
I mean clearly, right guys?
I mean only a fool would think OSE 'did, actually DO something, in the clan world',
but then go out of their way to use a map made by said clan? Right?

Well I mean in all honesty, who is this z5151 certified to be 'the judge of',
anyways?
I did you a favor, I searched your name in the games section.
http://www.roblox.com/Catalog/Lists.aspx?m=TopFavorites&c=9&t=AllTime&d=All&q=z5151
There wasn't even an entire page filled up.
I mean I searched "OSE", which isn't even the name of the person who owns the actual group,
& more results come up than even your full name combined, over five times.
You are neither qualified, nor capable, of judging this, as you are not equal or greater, in influence to what my group(s) have done. Even in your name.
This isn't counting the 5-6 groups you've led, only to abandon weeks later.

Even the search on the games tab, in my full name, out weighs you contribution to this game, by a factor of six.


"Every clan e981 would declare war on would quickly grow tired of his constant immature taunts"
--I thought OSE didn't fight, war, or develop any technology that was relevant to the clan world. Now he admits we warred with other groups.
I wonder what else might be amiss with his statements.
Maybe the whole 'tech' thing?
Maybe the whole graphics end of things?
Who knows.
It's hardly definitive.


"and his C&G rants every time something didn't go his way."
--"rants", with an "s".
Meaning multiple rants correct?
I'm assuming if 'said rants', are memorable enough to mention here,
wouldn't you be doing us all a favor in linking, 'said rants', in this forum?
I mean all I see here, is a 14 word, 57 character sentence, that is bonded together with nothing but a common sentence structure, & not but a single URL.
I wonder what else he claims about me & others, that is not accompanied with a URL for definitive proof, that he claims are true.
Because I've seen quite a lot of these statements, & quite seldomly, if even,
a single URL for any one of them.
'Hello z5151, you go to a baptist church'.
Now just because I say this, does't make it true.
But if I had a photograph of him entering, leaving, or attending some kind of a religious mass, & cited it here, it would go a long way in convincing others that it is true that he does indeed attend some kind of a baptist church.


"They made no innovations at all"
--You are neither qualified, nor capable, of judging this, as you are not equal or greater, in influence to what my group(s) have done. Even in your name.
This isn't counting the 5-6 groups you've led, only to abandon weeks later.

Even the search on the games tab, in my full name, out weighs you contribution to this game, by a factor of six. [2]

The rest of it is a few paragraphs above.


"except proving that stupid people like to group up in a cult following on roblox, just like they do in real life (see: kool-aid drinkers)"
--Speaking of proving, can you give me an exact naming reference as to 'what this cult was named', or anything of the sort?
There's actually a lot worse cults out there on this game.
I mean even finding a cult inside OSE, would be sketchy at best, because it's not visible by the naked eye from people who are not inside the group.
Even if you managed to infiltrate 'said cult', you'd be able to give us details of the goings on inside of it, I would imagine you'd be able to obtain the entire name of the whole thing, if you're that deep in..
But alas, it never happens. He has no proof. He never infiltrated nor even got into my group. He's got nothing.

Oh also, if you're after a witch hunt in terms of 'hating on cults';
http://www.roblox.com/Groups/group.aspx?gid=826127
This is the most obviously named cult of all time, but you can have a look for yourself.
Out of all said 'cults' on this entire game, with a name like that,
one would think it would be hardly worth going after a group like 'OSE', who hypothetically would have a very hidden, not-easy-to-get-proof on cult, making trying to get real evidence very hard to come by, & sketchy at best,
when you have groups like what's above, on roblox, openly trying to attract people into it.

Oh but wait, you don't genuinely care about exposing cults, or improving the group quality on this game at all.
You're out to get OSE, & it's leader, on some entirely unprovoked socially biased vendetta.
Like a bad circuit, the logic is faulty here.


"Tl;dr: e981 has a classic case of small dog syndrome, and his clan was garbage."
--'K9 syndrome'. 'E981 has, K9 syndrome'.
Out of all the things you could have called E981, like;
the b word, or the f word, or any number of slanderous comments that could have come from your fast paces little fingers trouncing across your keyboard,
you had to pick; 'K9'.
It makes no sense at all.
I mean there's literally hundreds of swear & slanderous words,
& that's just English language. There's hundreds of other languages.
& out of tens of thousands of potential insults, or slanderous commentary you could have posted;
'E981 has a case of K9 syndrome',
was the very best, you could come up with..?
I mean I've had some pretty un-repectable opponents on this forum,
but I mean it's really not like the bar is going to be set any higher with comments like this.. :| :/
You know if I'm going to be insulted, I'de at least want something with some sort of wit involved, you know, a punchline, maybe something relevant to do with actual reality, ect..
:/
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E981 is not online. E981
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06 May 2014 04:59 AM
"Oh I thought you were cool.
Gunna back away now."
--Gg.





"haters gonna hate
--Gg.






"I view E9 as intelligent in the way he breaks down things. Not that he will write a 5 paragraph post about how stupid Z51 is, or how your building is no different. Etc."
"I view E9 as intelligent in the way he breaks down things."
"how stupid Z51 is"
--Gg.





"The "Gg" is like his final blow, powerful enough to kill a blue whale in one go."
--Gg.





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Milnaria is not online. Milnaria
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06 May 2014 05:10 AM
E9 your arguement is invalid because I doubt it mentions your leadership skills andonly your building.
No one is also gonna read jt because it's too long and senseless

This is Clans & Guilds, not the "Building" section or "Look what I made".
Last time I checked you don't lead anymore, only brag about building on C&G
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BenBonez is not online. BenBonez
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06 May 2014 05:11 AM
wow 5 pages? cute
try 300 (400 with map names and ambiguously named places)
http://www.roblox.com/Catalog/Lists.aspx?m=RecentlyUpdated&c=9&q=RCL
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