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Re: No country will ever be able to have full freedoms and peace

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TheHarlequinsDemise is not online. TheHarlequinsDemise
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02 May 2014 06:18 AM
Allowing full freedom will allow people to say whatever they want, which will annoy others, leading to conflict, leading to violence, leading to chaos which in the end leads to no peace.

Allowing full peace means taking certain freedoms away from people to prevent violence and to keep peace, meaning no full freedom.


No country has achieved peace and freedom, and no country ever will.



What would you prefer though?

Having the right to speak your mind without persecution or living without the threat of violence?

I'd prefer the latter.

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rat57 is not online. rat57
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02 May 2014 06:24 AM
I'd take the last one.
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MarioDude0123 is not online. MarioDude0123
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02 May 2014 07:18 AM
The first one.
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PlayfulDog is not online. PlayfulDog
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02 May 2014 07:50 AM
ACtually, the anarchic Free Territory in Ukraine had ALL Freedoms
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noswad0208 is not online. noswad0208
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02 May 2014 08:12 AM
"Having the right to speak your mind without persecution or living without the threat of violence?

I'd prefer the latter."

The first.

"People willing to trade their freedom for temporary security deserve neither and will lose both." - Benjamin Franklin
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TheMyrco is not online. TheMyrco
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02 May 2014 01:11 PM
The latter.

全ては未来を繋ぐ鍵。私はメレコ !
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Borowng is not online. Borowng
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02 May 2014 01:15 PM
I'd like life without violence but it wouldn't last long.
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AlteFritz is not online. AlteFritz
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02 May 2014 03:07 PM
Hey look, you figured out what's been blatantly obvious since the dawn of civilization! Congratulations!
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stealthyninja588 is not online. stealthyninja588
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02 May 2014 03:24 PM
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
-Ben Franklin

"If you want total security, go to prison. There you're fed, clothed, given medical care and so on. The only thing lacking... is freedom."
-Dwight D. Eisenhower
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TheKentuckian is not online. TheKentuckian
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02 May 2014 03:41 PM
Suppressing people's ability to speak of racism won't prevent racism, it will just make the racists more angry.
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evilkiller108 is not online. evilkiller108
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02 May 2014 06:28 PM
The latter, obviously.
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jamkid12 is not online. jamkid12
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02 May 2014 08:23 PM
"Suppressing people's ability to speak of racism won't prevent racism, it will just make the racists more angry."

good
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TheHarlequinsDemise is not online. TheHarlequinsDemise
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03 May 2014 12:08 AM
"Suppressing people's ability to speak of racism won't prevent racism, it will just make the racists more angry."

in australia that's not true at all.
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falsidge is not online. falsidge
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03 May 2014 12:21 AM
Full freedom is always the better choice. Full peace = equality. Freedom should always be limited by what we know is bad such as murdering or stealing. But it should not be limited by anything else. We should be able to say a racist comment. Saying something does not kill nor steal something from someone. The person who reacts to it may kill or steal but the person decided to react that one. They decided to kill or steal.It should be blamed on them not the person who made the racist comment. Once you start banning something as trivial as saying racist comment you are giving government a lot of power. Now government can literally do anything to you. Remember Humans by nature are evil. That is why government is a necessary evil. it is necessary because humans can't control them selves but it is evil because we are giving rights to a group of people. It is evil because someone is taking full control of your life. And that person is evil too.
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TheKentuckian is not online. TheKentuckian
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03 May 2014 09:47 PM
in australia that's not true at all.
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Just wait and see. You think that because people have less ability to speak racism, they will be less racist?
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evilkiller108 is not online. evilkiller108
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04 May 2014 09:21 PM
Full freedom = freedom to own slaves.
Restricting slavery = taking away freedom.
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Scyblocks is not online. Scyblocks
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04 May 2014 09:26 PM
Find a balance somewhere in the middle.

Like Switzerland.
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diamondmark is not online. diamondmark
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05 May 2014 07:02 AM
Most of our countries seem alright. The motives of most violence are not 'insulting' and that stopepd being a crime about 40 years ago :)
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PhilCoke is not online. PhilCoke
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05 May 2014 10:40 AM
Basically, this is how government controlling every aspect of life is justified. The government's purpose is to enforce the law, not control and supress every aspect of life.
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builderman444445 is not online. builderman444445
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05 May 2014 11:03 AM
both
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dans59 is not online. dans59
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05 May 2014 02:47 PM
@TheHa

In Canada you can do that with out any of those happening to you.
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rocky21212 is not online. rocky21212
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05 May 2014 07:39 PM
The first one, sorry.
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