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Re: Fix HopperBins! [Major Problem! ]

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ColorfulBrendon is not online. ColorfulBrendon
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29 Apr 2014 04:16 PM
For years, HopperBins were the lifeline of all ROBLOX Tools.
And now, every single hopperbin to exist is BROKEN.


What is a HopperBin?
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A HopperBin is a simple Tool that does not have a part in it, but rather a script. They are very efficient at making tools, and have widespread use all over ROBLOX Games.

Examples of HopperBins:
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*The classic Delete Tool
*The classic Drag Tool
*Potentially, other standard, non-stamper build tools
*The original version of Work At a Pizza Place's "Job" tool (Just as a popular example.)
*Almost all GUI-Oriented tools

Why does it matter?
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As a game creator, I use hopperbins a lot. I had an experimental map where users could speedbuild using hopperbins that generate parts.

HopperBins no longer function at ALL, and this is a major problem that has broken countless games, including one of mine.
Fixing HopperBins will fix myriad games.

It may be updates to the Mouse Icon that have to do with hopperbins, because it's not just an icon - this mouse works differently, and does not support HopperBins.
I'd like this mouse to be updated to do so.

Please support to help game creators become aware!
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SphealWheel is not online. SphealWheel
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29 Apr 2014 04:33 PM
yey
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ColorfulBrendon is not online. ColorfulBrendon
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29 Apr 2014 04:52 PM
Bump
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thejunk101 is not online. thejunk101
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30 Apr 2014 04:15 PM
Hopperbins has so many flaws in it.

"Do you even grammar"
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ColorfulBrendon is not online. ColorfulBrendon
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30 Apr 2014 04:22 PM
Back when they were functioning, before updates to the mouse, Hopperbins were flawless.
I used them, and almost any tool scripter used them, too.
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thejunk101 is not online. thejunk101
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30 Apr 2014 06:33 PM
Exploiters can copy games from that.

"Do you even grammar"
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Naruto9200 is not online. Naruto9200
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30 Apr 2014 06:35 PM
They removed it because they were easily exploitable.Any exploiter can turn a hopperbin into anything they wanted.
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ColorfulBrendon is not online. ColorfulBrendon
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30 Apr 2014 06:41 PM
Perhaps once, they could be exploited. But, if you can turn a hopperbin into anything you want, can't you turn ANY script into anything you want?
Think about that.

Last I checked, Cheat Engine's Script Editer was patched.


And no, ROBLOX did NOT remove HopperBins. They still exist.
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ColorfulBrendon is not online. ColorfulBrendon
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01 May 2014 06:42 AM
So Thejunk and naruto, you're wrong.
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MrPhelps is online. MrPhelps
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01 May 2014 08:30 AM
I support this. I personally haven't done a lot with hopperbins, but I do recognize how important they are.






~Phelps in OT~
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superswordfish is not online. superswordfish
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01 May 2014 09:38 AM
I think that instead of assuming that it is an update issue, we should figure out exactly why so many hopperbins broke, otherwise we have no reason to believe that it is an update besides a bunch of stuff breaking that used to work. That is not enough evidence. What specifically made hopperbins break, that's what I want to know.
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TestNanotch is not online. TestNanotch
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01 May 2014 09:47 AM
Support, everything broke when that update was released, and now everyone had to change their scripts.
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mrbossyboots1337 is not online. mrbossyboots1337
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01 May 2014 09:51 AM
Well, I got around this by making it key based not click based.
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ColorfulBrendon is not online. ColorfulBrendon
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01 May 2014 03:51 PM
Superswordfish, all I can try to do for now is raise awareness of the breaking of hopperbins.

MrBoss, I'd be interested to know how you did that, considering hopperbins are a kind of tool.
Although, unfortunately, most hopperbins remain broken.
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thejunk101 is not online. thejunk101
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01 May 2014 03:52 PM
If we were wrong, why is there still no hopperbins?

"Do you even grammar"
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nathan15051 is not online. nathan15051
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01 May 2014 03:54 PM
Replace scripts in HopperBins with local ones.
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superswordfish is not online. superswordfish
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01 May 2014 04:10 PM
So what broke is that regular scripts don't run in Hopperbins, meaning Hopperbins are local now? Sounds good long-term if so :P.
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ColorfulBrendon is not online. ColorfulBrendon
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01 May 2014 05:13 PM
"If we were wrong, why is there still no hopperbins?"

HopperBins exist. They just don't seem to work.

"Replace scripts in HopperBins with local ones."

I will experiment with this and get back to you after I test it.

"So what broke is that regular scripts don't run in Hopperbins, meaning Hopperbins are local now? Sounds good long-term if so :P."

After I confirm this for myself, I'll get back to replying to you.
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jareth132 is not online. jareth132
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01 May 2014 05:28 PM
Support
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DataStore is not online. DataStore
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01 May 2014 05:57 PM
They were never broken in the first place per se, but rather exhibiting incorrect behaviour - running server-side scripts client-side, allowing exploiters to manipulate them. There is a note on the Wiki regarding this, and numerous threads about this already.
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Naruto9200 is not online. Naruto9200
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01 May 2014 05:59 PM
Believe it or not,exploited Hopperbins does more harm then scripts.
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ColorfulBrendon is not online. ColorfulBrendon
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01 May 2014 06:07 PM
@Data,
Ah.

At the moment, when I try a hopperbin tool, they do absolutely nothing.
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superswordfish is not online. superswordfish
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01 May 2014 09:31 PM
So am I correct that Hopperbins are made local? I'm totally lost as to why they "broke" lol...
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ColorfulBrendon is not online. ColorfulBrendon
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01 May 2014 09:38 PM
Apparently, they do function again after being transfered to a Local script, oddly enough.

I still wonder why they stopped functioning when being in a script, thus breaking the tool.

"Believe it or not,exploited Hopperbins does more harm then scripts."

Please elaborate as to how it's more then harming a script when a hopperbin is the topic, this is very vague, and you've got my interest.
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superswordfish is not online. superswordfish
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01 May 2014 09:45 PM
I guess they were made local :P.

Darn missed thousandth post :P.
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