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Re: RAT isn't pulling a TGI:

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Weaponization is not online. Weaponization
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25 Apr 2014 03:33 PM
No need to elaborate further than this:
>We're losing the war.
>Our HR's seem to think that we can win and that we need to win when really losing is the only possibility and it won't effect much in the future anyways.
>The HR's go tryhard and try and make us get defensive wins by not defending on a normal basis and only going to Celeste when we're certain to win (never)
>It isn't working

Don't blame RAT, blame the people who are raging and making excuses.
They should be demoted or exiled anyways in my opinion.

In other words, many people want to defend Celeste like honorable members of any clan, and fight against Vaktovia against all odds even if defeat is certain, but they will get punished. Punished for something that won't matter in the long run anyways because holding back won't win this war, we can only fight hard and hope to gain some respect but nooooooo that won't happen.

Try and disprove me.

(Inb4 I get raged at by everyone on C&G and everyone in VAK/RAT for some reason)


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ImperialCC is not online. ImperialCC
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25 Apr 2014 03:34 PM
Shots fired.
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duckdude1123 is not online. duckdude1123
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25 Apr 2014 03:36 PM
Wow, an honest Frostarian.

-clap-
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25 Apr 2014 03:37 PM
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InstaIIing is not online. InstaIIing
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25 Apr 2014 03:38 PM
Honesty has it's rewards and regrets.
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Weaponization is not online. Weaponization
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25 Apr 2014 03:38 PM
I speak the truth.
I still think that we can fight VAK and make the war score pretty close, we can catch up if we try.
But right now, everything we're doing isn't working out.

If I was put in charge I would shrug my shoulders also, because I have no idea what to do when we defend and 60% of our members RQ the defense and we lose.

There really is nothing we can do about that except do better training's and wait for 8G to come out.

The real rat of C&G
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sdghtII is not online. sdghtII
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25 Apr 2014 03:38 PM
Dude. +1000 respect.


I'd be happy to change the HR bullshet on my sdgh34 account.
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nagusme is not online. nagusme
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25 Apr 2014 03:41 PM
why are u in rat then
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GaIlifreyan is not online. GaIlifreyan
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25 Apr 2014 03:41 PM
Well, even if you did what you listed you wouldn't be pulling a TGI, so you're in good company.

Anyway,
>We're losing the war.

Well, you're dealing with a powerclan that is able to flash flood servers and get quick wins while your conscripts are still scrambling about, so you shouldn't feel bad about it considering it's not a challenge for VAK.

>Our HR's seem to think that we can win and that we need to win when really losing
is the only possibility and it won't effect much in the future anyways.

You would be in a much better position if you had better coordination through both defensive and offensive fronts, and kicked Vydrak into utilizing FoL/Immortals into an effective shock troop force similar to RFST[5] and ASOG. I literally gave you guys a replica of SMO to use for training and you haven't used it yet nor edited it to the current SMO updates. Come on, I threw you guys a bone.

>The HR's go tryhard and try and make us get defensive wins by not defending on a normal basis and only going to Celeste when we're certain to win (never)

Be reasonable and rally up servers with enough room to have a few raiders at a time, and no more. No trickling, but that's hard to do with so many rambling conscripts. And don't be like VAK and give the other side the bird when you don't feel like you'll win a server.

>It isn't working

You're dealing with brickwall vaktovia; not a lot of stuff works because they always find a way around it or manage to punch right through because you aren't bolstering yourselves.
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WarlordVazzUmieKilla is not online. WarlordVazzUmieKilla
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25 Apr 2014 03:42 PM
Thanks for posting this, was about to post something similar myself since I've been doing it on the wall for a while - I agree with everything in this thread.

You had the chance to walk with the reapers, now you shall burn with the saints.
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Antagonise is not online. Antagonise
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25 Apr 2014 03:43 PM
they said they would demote anyone that went to defend a celeste server a few days ago

honestly the people that disobeyed that order and defended against gannex's raid have my utmost respect
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meto02 is not online. meto02
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25 Apr 2014 03:43 PM
jeezez which ever hr thinks we're going to win is nuts.


✯ RAT Councilium ✯
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Weaponization is not online. Weaponization
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25 Apr 2014 03:44 PM
RAT isn't bad at all, I've been in the clan for years and I've seen worse, even in RAT's most horrible times I've seen worse.

All RAT needs at the moment is more organization and more loyal soldiers.
We also need to have more proper training's, because most of our members leave the fort and RQ because they have no idea how to defend.

I accept this war, but it would have been nice if we were able to reform 100% along with 8G before actually going to war.

And believe it or not, 8G is well under way - some examples are the new training center and the all the new improvements we've made to our ranking system and entrance course.


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iIikeyou is not online. iIikeyou
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25 Apr 2014 03:46 PM
i once wrote a song
and it goes like this

/care
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SaskiaDraak is not online. SaskiaDraak
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25 Apr 2014 03:49 PM
None of these were pulled by TGI.

Please, create your forum in detail.
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BlizzardDefect is not online. BlizzardDefect
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25 Apr 2014 03:50 PM
Excuse me?
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Weaponization is not online. Weaponization
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25 Apr 2014 03:50 PM
And yes, I've been wanting to post my opinion on this as soon as I saw the shouts saying they would demote members for defending.

I find it ridiculous that it has come to this, and Meto I would completely agree with you, but I find no reason why the Councilium allowed Marshals to make such threats about demotions and stuff in the first place.
It's uncalled for.

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Modsz is not online. Modsz
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25 Apr 2014 03:51 PM
Rat is like a rat it's old and dies when someone steps on it. Which this time vak did
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Basketor is not online. Basketor
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25 Apr 2014 03:51 PM
Applause, applause, applause.
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Weaponization is not online. Weaponization
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25 Apr 2014 03:52 PM
"None of these were pulled by TGI."
Never said they were.

I'm simply stating what is going on in RAT, and referring to a thread titled:
"RAT is pulling a TGI"

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SaskiaDraak is not online. SaskiaDraak
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25 Apr 2014 03:53 PM
You're involving TGI in your forum.

Therefore I'm going to reply, -as I am in TGI.
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BlizzardDefect is not online. BlizzardDefect
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25 Apr 2014 03:54 PM
""None of these were pulled by TGI."
Never said they were."

Did you not read your title bud?

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Weaponization is not online. Weaponization
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25 Apr 2014 03:56 PM
I have uttermost respect for TGI.

No idea what you're going at here, but i'm not putting TGI down in any way on this thread.

The reference to TGI had to do with how we are fighting VAK.
TGI did it well, they defended.
RAT however is NOT pulling what TGI did.

Understand now?

The real rat of C&G
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Basketor is not online. Basketor
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25 Apr 2014 03:57 PM
Actually he is saying RAT is doing Trash unlike TGI
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SaskiaDraak is not online. SaskiaDraak
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25 Apr 2014 03:57 PM
Understood.
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