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Re: Vaktovian Vs Roblox Assault Team Raiding Issues.

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OblivionSpectrum is not online. OblivionSpectrum
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24 Apr 2014 06:55 PM
Frequently, I have seen Vaktovian Ascension Core members, Vaktovians, as well as Officers conducting raid retreats.

What I mean by this, is that the Vaktovians are leaving their base in the middle of raid when they are losing, or overwhelmed.

Secondly, I would like to point out gun unfairness. Let me indulge you on how RAT's Guns work first.

They are available for all to purchase. Essentially, Raiders and RAT have the same guns, if they choose to purchase them. Most cases are that Raiders (Mostly Vaktovians) have more Game-pass weapons than RAT Does.

Now to point out SMO's Guns;

The VAC/VAK Guns fire with +4 Damage over the raider M82, as well as a faster reload time.

If the Roblox Assault Team can offer a 10:00 Minute raid time, equal weaponry, and not retreat from official raids, why can the Vaktovian Empire not compensate to allow an equal war, to an over half-decade grudge?

I would propose the Terminal time at SMO be reduced to 15:00 (Minutes), the Guns rebalanced, as well as Celeste II to increase their Raid Timer to 15:00 (Minutes; For Raider win)

-OblivionSpectrum,
Former Vaktovian Empire Officer, VMP
Former Roblox Assault Team Supervisor

(Feel free to reply to this thread with questions, comments, and suggestions.)
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Valkairox is not online. Valkairox
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24 Apr 2014 06:58 PM
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justmoveordie is not online. justmoveordie
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24 Apr 2014 06:58 PM
Amen.
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meto02 is not online. meto02
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24 Apr 2014 06:59 PM
Really outdated information on this thread.

VAK/RAT guns are equal damage. And timers are equal, not at 15 minutes but are equal.


✯ RAT Councilium ✯
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captain26 is not online. captain26
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24 Apr 2014 06:59 PM
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CrimsonPact is not online. CrimsonPact
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24 Apr 2014 07:01 PM
ok first off I don't think their weapons have +4 damage
I've 1v1d plenty of VAKs before and won with half health left and i don't think I'm good enough for VAK so if they have a damage boost they would've won

secondly the rat and VAK terms are not 10 and 15
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CrimsonStatic is not online. CrimsonStatic
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24 Apr 2014 07:02 PM
"Frequently, I have seen Vaktovian Ascension Core members, Vaktovians, as well as Officers conducting raid retreats."

We don't retreat, you guys just ESR raid way to much and we can't ever get in to make it official because it's like 28/30.



"Secondly, I would like to point out gun unfairness. Let me indulge you on how RAT's Guns work first."

The guns scripts are exactly the same and has been proven many times. Good try.

"If the Roblox Assault Team can offer a 10:00 Minute raid time, equal weaponry, and not retreat from official raids, why can the Vaktovian Empire not compensate to allow an equal war, to an over half-decade grudge?"

The timer is 30 mins at Celeste and RATs retreat all the time. I have many screenshots saved up.
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Raethyr is not online. Raethyr
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24 Apr 2014 07:03 PM
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CrimsonPact is not online. CrimsonPact
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24 Apr 2014 07:04 PM
@static

are you high
if course you can make servers official why do you think you have a raider limit
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OblivionSpectrum is not online. OblivionSpectrum
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24 Apr 2014 07:05 PM
I would like to point out that just yesterday, this information was confirmed by a Vaktovian telling this to one of our members. (Will remain unanimous.) I Apologize for the outdated timer information, that is my bad.
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dildry is not online. dildry
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24 Apr 2014 07:05 PM
SMO like CII should have the timer go on even if all the raiders leave in order to prevent retreats....
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OblivionSpectrum is not online. OblivionSpectrum
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24 Apr 2014 07:05 PM
We haven't raided ESR since this war begun.
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HaHaHaFail is not online. HaHaHaFail
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24 Apr 2014 07:07 PM
>Floods empty server
>oh come on no VAK
>RQ
>Someone on the forums must care!


Every Vaktovian Is Lemons
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CrimsonStatic is not online. CrimsonStatic
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24 Apr 2014 07:07 PM
"if course you can make servers official why do you think you have a raider limit"


That happens once the raid is official.
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OblivionSpectrum is not online. OblivionSpectrum
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24 Apr 2014 07:08 PM
"if course you can make servers official why do you think you have a raider limit"


That happens once the raid is official.

I think the main point here is that it takes 7 Vaktovians to show up to raid. Which, as far as I know according to an Admrial, is more than ours.
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OblivionSpectrum is not online. OblivionSpectrum
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24 Apr 2014 07:11 PM
Correction to my ESR Post-

Maybe if you had people patrolling like we usually do, we wouldn't have to show up to an empty server. It's your fault for not coming to defend.
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CrimsonStatic is not online. CrimsonStatic
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24 Apr 2014 07:12 PM
We do defend, and when we defend, you guys usually never come and raid til we all go leave to a training, or you guys come and leave because you're losing.
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OblivionSpectrum is not online. OblivionSpectrum
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24 Apr 2014 07:20 PM
So you take your trainings as a precedence over a raid, for a war?

Looks like you guys have your priorities down.
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bobafett215 is not online. bobafett215
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24 Apr 2014 11:30 PM
Oblivion, both sides met and agreed to fort re-balances before the war began. It was also agreed upon that neither side can update their fort unless both sides agree upon the changes. In addition, your information has multiple inaccuracies in it:
1. Terminal times are now equal.
2. Both sides have a set limit on raiders so that enough of their members can get into the fort to make it official.
3. The grudge is only two years old, not five.
4. The weapons at SMO do equal damage, though reload time, accuracy, and firerate may differ.


If you have an issue with the other sides' fort, take it up with one of our high ranks. We know the forts still aren't completely balanced, and complaining on the forums will end up doing more harm than good. Don't forget that you represent us here on the forums, and how you act impacts the overall image of the group. Please act mature and refrain from inciting arguments.



This thread is now closed to ALL RAT, and continuing to argue on the forums WILL result in a loss of prestige.



~Bobafett215~
Sparrow Corp Developer
Roblox Assault Team Operator / Retired Admiral

TL;DR: Stop complaining, your information is inaccurate, continuing to argue on the forums will cost you prestige.
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