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Re: Lets talk about Player Points/Clans

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SlingshotJunkie is not online. SlingshotJunkie
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23 Apr 2014 10:21 AM
Hello everyone,

So my inbox was flooded with messages from you guys about the recent blog post (you can find it here: http://blog.roblox.com/2014/04/the-point-of-points-here-come-the-clans-and-more/?utm_source=rss&utm_me=the-point-of-points-here-come-the-clans-and-more )

So I felt that instead of answering every PM the same way (there were a lot of PM's) I would just come here on the forums to talk about it. So here is how I understand how things will be (taking what I know from that blog post):

Player points will be awarded to players who accomplish goals in games. This can be viewed in a similar way to XBox achievement points adding to your xbox live gamer score.

Clans will be a partition of groups, which will be smaller squads of your group specifically allowed to get points. I look at this as a sub-leaderboard in clans allowing you to weed out the weaker players and have stronger players rise to the top and score more points for your group which ultimately does very little except help in the global leader boards.

I think one of the saddest issues with this isn't even a technical problem--rather, its a problem with the name "clans". Honestly Im not sure that players would have as big of an issue if there was a different term used here. Clans are already an established form of group (its a little weird to have a clan inside of a clan). But in reality, "clans" ought to just be a classification of group members, not a new form of group.

As for player points themselves; in a way I can see why you might be upset about how these are being used. Since they are generated by players purchasing things it seems like only the rich will prosper. This isn't really true though, seeming the entry fees for such a thing could be extremely low.

You have to understand that everything is in beta and we are still in the middle of working on and changing things. So now is the perfect time to suggest and talk about this new system.

Please reply with your thoughts. I will do my best to reply to your responses as I go about my day.
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Incurso is not online. Incurso
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23 Apr 2014 10:22 AM
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23 Apr 2014 10:22 AM
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GianniFlash is not online. GianniFlash
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23 Apr 2014 10:23 AM
Player points... Kind of dumb.
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Flatflow is not online. Flatflow
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23 Apr 2014 10:23 AM
Right, this system is simply not wanted by the clan world, as someone else has said clans shouldn't be ranked on their money but their skill and I've failed to find a single person in the clan world to see any sort of beneficial side to this update.
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Centurians is not online. Centurians
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23 Apr 2014 10:23 AM
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pandatoby is not online. pandatoby
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23 Apr 2014 10:24 AM
MAKE IT SO, 'WAR GROUPS'

Only get 'Clan points' Via 'Battles'

Whereas your fangroups etc can use you current system.
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23 Apr 2014 10:24 AM
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I shall call you squishy, and you shall be part of my jelly fish army.
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Intervalent is not online. Intervalent
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23 Apr 2014 10:24 AM
Still pointless, imo.
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Intervalent is not online. Intervalent
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23 Apr 2014 10:24 AM
see what i did there
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sillylego is not online. sillylego
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23 Apr 2014 10:25 AM
Still really pointless in my opinion. Read my forum if you wanna see why.
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Drazeox is not online. Drazeox
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23 Apr 2014 10:25 AM
Eh
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23 Apr 2014 10:26 AM
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DeceliusMordecium is not online. DeceliusMordecium
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23 Apr 2014 10:26 AM
Terrible idea for the clan world, it's simply not wanted. Why not introduce features what we've been asking for weeks, months, even years? The points could work for some form of groups, but not the war clans. It should be about skill for clans, not money.
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Proelio is not online. Proelio
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23 Apr 2014 10:27 AM
Meh. I don't like that there can only be 100 people, and that it costs 500 robux
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GingerBiscuit99 is not online. GingerBiscuit99
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23 Apr 2014 10:28 AM
You should re-consider on how this community works, Its not like LMaD or ATR its completely different. Once you understand this community we will be happy to consider your updates.


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harrods is not online. harrods
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23 Apr 2014 10:28 AM
Thanks for taking the time to create this thread, however I don't really think C&G likes this new update. I don't like it either.
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23 Apr 2014 10:28 AM
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Centurians is not online. Centurians
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23 Apr 2014 10:33 AM
"Clans will be a partition of groups, which will be smaller squads of your group specifically allowed to get points. I look at this as a sub-leaderboard in clans allowing you to weed out the weaker players and have stronger players rise to the top and score more points for your group which ultimately does very little except help in the global leader boards."

This will just ruin clans.
A clan is a team.
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SlingshotJunkie is not online. SlingshotJunkie
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23 Apr 2014 10:34 AM
@standingthunder, Im not going to reply to an @slingshot post because I made this thread for just that sort of response. You should post it here so that I don't have to have so many tabs of posts Im having to actively reply to.

As for "this is only for war clans" thats not true at all. Im sure there are plenty of ways this can be used. For instance, a neutral party could make a minigame battle where its clan vs clan "fighting" for points by playing minigames, not battling. That is just one idea I had off the top of my head, there are infinitely more possibilities.

The whole point of this was to give some sort of validity to groups that claim to be the best or top notch. Maybe war clans will most commonly be near the top of the leaderboard but I bet that the top won't be a war clan but rather a group that is much more clever than that.
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ZirutoHellfire is not online. ZirutoHellfire
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23 Apr 2014 10:34 AM
Perhaps instead of you all rampaging about it, why not just boycott it if you don't like it; some clans will find use of it and decide not to some won't, just accept the update and boycott it if you don't like it. SIMPLE.

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Imitater is not online. Imitater
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23 Apr 2014 10:35 AM
this update looks like ROBLOX is trying to market the clan world

i'm not even sure why you are trying to expand profits by filtering the clan world
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ZirutoHellfire is not online. ZirutoHellfire
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23 Apr 2014 10:36 AM
"I bet that the top won't be a war clan but rather a group that is much more clever than that."

Are you calling clanners degenerates?

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