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Re: [^A Better Forum^] by nenen V2 – R&A added

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nenen is not online. nenen
Joined: 19 Jun 2009
Total Posts: 946
20 Apr 2014 09:39 PM
Table of Contents:
I.Stopping Bad Answers, Before they occur
1.A Better Forum
2.Welcome to the Forum!
3.Forum GUI's
4.Posts & Signatures
5.Forum Profiles
6.And the Final suggestions
7.Decal Examples
8.Post-Script (P.S)

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I. Stopping Bad Answers, Before they occur: (Not Including Those who do not READ)
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REPLY1, “Roblox needs to Concentrate on making updates to the Game Engine, and fixing the Bugs the Game Engine has.”

ANSWER1, “Actually, Some of the TEAM members in ROBLOX specialize in WEBSITE Design & Programming, and so they can still work on the forum & on the Game Engine.
(See corp.roblox.com/jobs)
Also, the forum is REALLY important. They haven't updated it enough in a long time, and THIS is where people should feel comfortable going to when they want to chat and talk with other Robloxians.”
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REPLY2, “You can just use Browser Plug-ins, you can even have a Signature with that.”

ANSWER2, “-OK, First off, Not everyone is going to be able to begin with Browser Plug-ins, so only those who HAVE them will be able to benefit. And some of the ideas will not even do much good because of that, (Bold, Italics, Underlines, etc) Most of these ideas, are Must Have for EVERYONE!
-Secondly, You should almost never have to use Third-Party Services, Software, etc. I think that most (If not all) things have to be available ON ROBLOX. Not somewhere else on the internet.
-Thirdly, You can almost never trust Browser Plug-ins, so unless you know that the maker of it is trust-worthy, you probably shouldn't use it. It could be Malware, Spyware, Spamware, etc
-And Lastly, The “Signature Plug-in” is actually just adding words to the end of your post, so if it is a very long post, you will NOT see it, or you will see only part of it.”
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REPLY3 (About Forum Profiles), “We already have Profiles...”

ANSWER3, “Please reread the chapter. It says that it is basically an UPDATE to the Old profile.
The word Profile is synonymous (Sometimes Same As) to the word Chart. And so, when I say we need “Forum Profiles” I Basically mean some more Stats about your forum participation. (Such as the most recent topics of this USER and/or posts, maybe forum badges, liked posts, etc)”
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REPLY4, “Get out of the forum Nub!!!”

ANSWER4, “Talking to yourself is a sign of insanity (Craziness) so please go talk to yourself somewhere else.”

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1. A Better Forum:
The ROBLOX Forum for some reason, always seemed to be banged up. It always needed a better look. In what way does it need to be better? Well, it should just by looking at it, Make you feel like you want to be there. That you want to talk and chat with everybody. At the moment it does not give that feeling, Partially because of how it looks. But the most important thing that has to change, is the ROBLOX team. The ROBLOX team needs to participate more in the forum, to chat, and read. That will make people feel more “at home” and will make people want to participate in every aspect of ROBLOX a whole lot more!
Basically, What ROBLOX needs. Is for the team, to participate in the forum more, AND to update it with things that would make it more easier to chat, and to make the visual quality BETTER. The current quality is just not good enough.

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2. Welcome to the Forum!:
You have just pressed on the “Forum” button for the first time. And it brings you to the Welcome Page! It Welcomes you to the forum, and also shows you the Community Rules & Guidelines, it also has a link to the HELP page, At the bottom right of the page, you see an “Enter the Forum” button. Which after reading everything, you press. Now you are on the Forum Main-page.

I think that a Welcome page would help stop Ignorance of the Rules, It will also help people to feel more welcome, I also Think that ROBLOX should make Backgrounds for different parts of the forum, so for example The Welcome Page, could have some Robloxians Welcoming you or each other to this forum

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3. Forum GUI's:
A forum graphical user interface, would be very useful in the Forum. You would see them the moment you enter the Forum Main-page, they would be everywhere in the forum, (Except the welcome page)
They normally are on One side of the page (Usually the Right side) and they could be Stacked on top of each other. They (as in, the Forum GUI's) have also been called Widgets & Modules.
(Please see Decal Example 1)
Here are some ideas for the GUI's

-Current User GUI:
This would have your Robloxian's Picture, your User-name, a Link to your Forum profile. A counter of how many posts you have, your Join-date, etc
If your not logged in, it would just say Guest, and might have a No Avatar picture, Plus it would ask you to Log In to see your Information.

-Forum Announcements GUI:
This would be Near or at the Top of the column of GUI's, It would have the Current Forum announcement, and a link to the Past Announcements page.
(Make some kind of Fun Background for it!)

-Most Popular Topics / Most Recent Topics:
At the top of this GUI, you would see two buttons, they would be for choosing what kind of posts you want to see. Most Popular or Most Recent. And there would be 6-10 topics shown. And at the bottom of this GUI, maybe an Option for seeing more. and something that this GUI would show regardless of which one your looking at, is the Time & Date of the most recent reply, and the user-name of the replier.

-Rules and Help GUI:
It would have Links to the Rules, Guidelines, and Help (And of course Nice backgrounds/pictures)

-Drafted Posts GUI:
It would have a few of your most recently drafted posts, and an option to go to the Drafted Posts page (If your not logged in, it will request you to log in to see your drafted posts.)

-List of Subscribed Posts GUI:
It would have a Few of posts that you most recently Subscribed to. And an option to see more.
(If you do not understand what I am talking about, please see Decal Example 1)

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4. Posts & Signatures:
Something I think that EVERYONE can agree on, is that the Posting system really needs updating.
It's hard to make easy to read posts, when you don't have the necessary tools. (And it should not be hard, So don't use that excuse!) So now I am going to tell you what the should be.

-First of all, You really need to be able to QUOTE another post. And you should not be able to change anything in the quote. BUT you could possibly quote a Section of the post.

-Styles are a much needed update, they would make posts a lot more easier to read & understand, Especially when they are long. Here are the Styles I know about, that should be added.
Bold, Italics, Underline, Over-line, Strike-though, Shadow, Outline, Superscript, & Subscript.

-Something that would make posts more Unique, and yes. More easier to read & understand. Are Alignments. So you could have the content of your posts on the Left, Right, or Center of the post.

-Fonts, really are an obvious update for posts. Ones that certainly should be added are the ones you can have In-Game. Which are: Arial, Arialbold, Legacy, SourceSans, SourceSansbold.
An Interesting Font (Which I would find VERY useful) is a ROBLOX font, (Which can be seen in the LOGO for roblox)

-More sizes are another obvious update. At least 3 sizes, Small, Normal, & Large.

-COLORS have to be added. & all the colors that you can paint a brick with should be Included.

-Emoticons, makes a forum more Fun. When they look good that is. So make sure they fit the Emotions they represent.

-You need to be able to Edit posts nobody has replied too. (If somebody replies while your editing, you will not be able to save changes.) Moderators can of course see all the versions.

-Putting Approved Decals into your posts are a much needed and asked for update. In this post in fact, it would have been really useful!

-Another Interesting idea. Would be that you could put a special kind of module that would have the Name, Thumbnails, And Description for a game, (You can choose which game each Module will represent) and of coarse the Play button and Link to the game as well.

-Now about Signatures. It will have All of the updates for the posting system, but there would be several differences, A Signature would only be able to have approx. 350-450 (And Yes, Decals and Modules Would be considered as a character) And every user can choose whether or not they want to see other user's signatures, (They can choose if they will be able to see Everyone's, Friend's, Best Friend's, Or Nobodies) this is of course, changeable in the Account page.

-You should be able to save a Draft of your posts (One that is NOT published for the Public)
this is so if you have to leave suddenly, you will not feel rushed, and can save it before you leave.

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5. Forum Profiles
The Forum profile, is a Section of your User profile, But it has a separate page all to itself. (Kind of like how your Games are on your User profile, but they have their own pages)
This profile would have your Signature, A box with your most recent posts, the Number of posts you have, and other info. (It will show your Robloxian's Picture too) This is an Update to the old profile.
(Also I think ROBLOX should make some more FORUM badges.)

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6. And the Final suggestions
Finally, these are the last suggestions for the forum.

Moderation:
Personally, I kind of prefer if every post has to be moderated before it can be viewed by everyone. But I think this is not going to happen. So I think that at least you should give New users and Users who broke the rules, a Higher Level of moderation. That way the quality of the forum would be slightly better. Here are the Levels of moderation.
-Low-Level moderation = Same as current system. A Blacklist (though the current blacklist seems to be leaking).
-Medium-Level moderation = A Blacklist & every post is moderated before being published. You will be able to view your post's status in your Forum Profile.
-High-Level moderation = You can Only post using a “White-list” and every post is moderated before being published.

No More Content Deleted!
Roblox sometimes looks kinda trashy. The Problem is that after something is found to be breaking the rules. All Roblox does is make it show or say “[Content Deleted]”. (Basically, they only wash the thousands of candy wrappers in the park, instead of throwing them into the trash) I think that when a Decal, or a Model, or a Post. Is found to be breaking the rules, they have to be DELETED. But only if the thing itself is breaking the rules! So if a Decal's/Model's/Game's/whatever name or description is found to be breaking the rules, they could just put “[Content Deleted]” since it is not the Decal/Model/Game/whatever that is itself breaking the rules.

Official Group Posts:
Groups should be able to post Official Topics, The Poster's Information would instead have The Group's Name and Logo, as well as how many members are in the Group.
It would also have the Specific Member's username who posted this, and his/her rank.
You would be able to see the posts a Group posted on their group page.
There also the possibility that they might only be able to post in Specific Forums & Sub-Forums.

Forum LOGO:
There should be a LOGO for the forum, which when pressed Brings you to the Forum Main-Page.
Why? It looks better, and dare I say, more modern.

Backgrounds
Having nice backgrounds around this forum would make it look a whole lot nicer.
I also have an idea that you could put random color backgrounds under the name and description of Forums & Sub-Forums. (See Decal Example 3)

Finally
I think you should add all (Or most) of the updates, All At Once. That way it would make people think Wow, this is Cool! You can shut down the forum if necessary for a few days when adding.

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7.Decal Examples:
These are ONLY examples. Please only use them to Understand what I am talking about. Not to make it exactly the same!

Decal Example 1 (GUI Example)
http://www.roblox.com/Decal-Example-1-GUI-Example-item?id=145085451

Decal Example 2 (Forum LOGO)
http://www.roblox.com/Decal-Example-2-Forum-Font-item?id=145085484

Decal Example 3 (Randomly Colored Backgrounds)
http://www.roblox.com/Decal-Example-3-Randomly-Colored-Backgrounds-item?id=145085823

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8. Post-Script (P.S)
I can't stress enough about the Importance of the ROBLOX team participating in the forum!
A lot of times people feel that the ROBLOX team does not read any of their suggestions, and probably for the most part they are right. If the ROBLOX team would participate (Chat, Reply, Talk, etc) in every part of the forum. People would feel so much more welcome. I know that you guys have a busy schedule, but you should still make the effort. Besides the Moderators are already in the forum. So they could participate a little more.
Another way to make people feel more welcome. Is to recognize the Users who help out in the forum a lot. Or those who increase the quality of it. (You can use the Announcement GUI. And have an Announcements forum/sub-forum with the actual posts.)
(READ THE WHOLE POST FIRST!)

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SuperGogeta101 is not online. SuperGogeta101
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20 Apr 2014 09:47 PM
I support. I forumed since 2011 and all they did was change the small little icons.
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nenen is not online. nenen
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20 Apr 2014 11:30 PM
Thank you, sometimes it seems like nobody is listening to me. but I guess I am wrong.
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Questesep is not online. Questesep
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21 Apr 2014 01:16 AM
I support.
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dragon172 is not online. dragon172
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21 Apr 2014 01:35 AM
Support.

ROBLOX needs to let their workers express their skills on web page design.
You can't just concentrate on the gamer alone; You need to concentrate on the whole website too!
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dragon172 is not online. dragon172
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21 Apr 2014 01:36 AM
The font needs to be changed too.
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nenen is not online. nenen
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21 Apr 2014 09:10 AM
Yes, we definitely need more fonts.
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FluxPanda is not online. FluxPanda
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21 Apr 2014 09:54 AM
This would be cool! I support!
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dragon172 is not online. dragon172
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21 Apr 2014 05:54 PM
Speed bump
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dragon172 is not online. dragon172
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21 Apr 2014 07:37 PM
Bump
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Iamsocool2211 is not online. Iamsocool2211
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21 Apr 2014 07:39 PM
tl;dr

"Use the force, Harry" - Gandalf
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dragon172 is not online. dragon172
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21 Apr 2014 07:39 PM
Stop being lazy. :/
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grantox is not online. grantox
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21 Apr 2014 07:43 PM
Didn't really read all that, but from what I can tell, the forum needs everything that was listed here, support.
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nenen is not online. nenen
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23 Apr 2014 10:48 AM
Wow, It is nice when OTHERS bump my post.

Regarding "Tl;dr" I will NOT make one simply because Lazy people don't want to read the post.

This post is Short enough to read if you try. it is not multiple pages long. (THIS IS THE CONDENSED (Shortened) VERSION YOU KNOW..)
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Excilium is not online. Excilium
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23 Apr 2014 10:57 AM
Support!

Cold Meldo on a slate plate
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23 Apr 2014 01:13 PM
I support
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comonkey is not online. comonkey
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24 Apr 2014 09:09 AM
i support! roblox needs a better forum!
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nenen is not online. nenen
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24 Apr 2014 11:42 AM
If you have any Suggestions, or concerns. feel free to post them. we need to make this the best it could possibly be.


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List of Supports:

SuperGogeta101, "I support. I forumed since 2011 and all they did was change the small little icons."

Questesep, "I support."

dragon172, "Support.

ROBLOX needs to let their workers express their skills on web page design.
You can't just concentrate on the gamer alone; You need to concentrate on the whole website too!"

FluxPanda, "This would be cool! I support!"

grantox, "Didn't really read all that, but from what I can tell, the forum needs everything that was listed here, support."

Excilium, "Support!

Cold Meldo on a slate plate"

cootadude, "I support"

comonkey, "i support! roblox needs a better forum!"
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nenen is not online. nenen
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25 Apr 2014 01:09 PM
Bumpity Bump.

Now on the front page :|
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25 Apr 2014 05:06 PM
Bump.
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LameGamesDOTcom is not online. LameGamesDOTcom
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25 Apr 2014 07:47 PM
I support, and i don't really like plug-ins. it just seems like cheating and hacking the site to me.
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25 Apr 2014 07:48 PM
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nenen is not online. nenen
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28 Apr 2014 12:05 PM
If you SPAM, then you are Supporting this post. (You like it so much, you would spam to keep it on the front page, and risk getting punished for it.)

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nenen is not online. nenen
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28 Apr 2014 02:19 PM
I made a new DECAL EXAMPLE.
Decal Example 4 (Making or Editing a POST)
http://www.roblox.com/Decal-Example-4-Making-or-Editing-a-POST-item?id=154865772


Here is the Updated chapter:

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7.Decal Examples:
These are ONLY examples. Please only use them to Understand what I am talking about. Not to make it exactly the same!

Decal Example 1 (GUI Example)
http://www.roblox.com/Decal-Example-1-GUI-Example-item?id=145085451

Decal Example 2 (Forum LOGO)
http://www.roblox.com/Decal-Example-2-Forum-Font-item?id=145085484

Decal Example 3 (Randomly Colored Backgrounds)
http://www.roblox.com/Decal-Example-3-Randomly-Colored-Backgrounds-item?id=145085823

Decal Example 4 (Making or Editing a POST)
http://www.roblox.com/Decal-Example-4-Making-or-Editing-a-POST-item?id=154865772
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28 Apr 2014 09:30 PM
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