tntad
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| 22 Apr 2014 09:17 PM |
Most people: Time to rage on the forums
Me: meh |
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Fruspus
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| 22 Apr 2014 09:19 PM |
| Me: Go check the forums for rage threads. |
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98Greener
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| Joined: 29 Jun 2010 |
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| 22 Apr 2014 09:19 PM |
ATR is completely fine with it, same with RT and OT.
It's C & G babbies that are crying.
AND IT'S NOT EVEN OUT YET. :D |
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tntad
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| 22 Apr 2014 09:21 PM |
| C&G is a place of rats in my opinion. It is all about the stupid X-101st and RAT clans fighting over the forums about raids. |
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| 22 Apr 2014 09:37 PM |
We are NOT all about RAT, and X-101ST If you spent time actually in the community, you would find that we actually denounce FEAR, RAT, and TD, as well as other superclans.
We like VAK, TGI, A-SOV, etc.
The way the update goes, you get fan clubs desecrating our name, and generating fan club hype.
Plus, no one even needs to actually fight a war to get points. Hang around in Paintball all day, like an 8 year old, whine when you lose, and scream like a monkey when you win, NOW THEN YOU REINFORCE THAT WITH A LEADERBOARD.
You can see why we're mad.
This update is against clans, not for it.
Clans are more like countries, we don't sit and play games all day, we raid someone and win with SKILL, not clicking around with a paintball gun. |
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AeroAdam1
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| 22 Apr 2014 09:38 PM |
@digimon
silly c&g clans are for wimps! |
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98Greener
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| 22 Apr 2014 09:39 PM |
Hold on, you're mad because of fan groups?
Are you hearing this? A-are you hearing this right now?
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| 22 Apr 2014 09:42 PM |
Why don't you ask your fan club to raid VAK?
You'll see my point. The 'Clans' update gives us no benefit, and either forces us to focus on playing "Paintball" instead of actually defending, or cheat and then have a flame war over who cheats the best.
Either way, it drives the clan reputation down.
Roblox is VERY hetrogenous. You have the kiddies who just love front paging, the LMaDers, and then us.
We don't like merging with groups that caused the average sterotype against Roblox in the first place, if it has to happen, make them come to us.
Assuming I payed attention in Chemistry correctly:
Hetrogenous (adj.): To be composed of more parts than obviously seen, and have dynamic within any given sample. |
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tntad
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| 22 Apr 2014 09:43 PM |
"Hold on, you're mad because of fan groups?"
..What? No. I was not even talking about them... |
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| 22 Apr 2014 09:43 PM |
Let me define fan club here.
We're not mad over "Digimon Supporters" or anyone We're mad over clans like TD who are more LIKE those fan clubs.
Fan Club. (n) A clan that resembles the appearance of a fan club more closely, and has little or nothing to do with they typical structure of a clan.
We don't care what you do with your real fan clubs. Just stop trying to make them into clans. |
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98Greener
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| 22 Apr 2014 09:44 PM |
That's when you get your group more members.
Make it better than Paintball and those other fan groups. |
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| 22 Apr 2014 09:46 PM |
Clans DON'T work that way.
Not since 2010.
The last time a base was on front page was the VS recruitment center.
And VS gained a lot of members with low skill.
Clans are about SKILL, Not number.
We can't just make money appear from thin air, get a lot of raiders,
And plus, how do we generate good people to defend? |
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tntad
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| 22 Apr 2014 09:46 PM |
"Roblox is VERY hetrogenous"
That is something I can almost 100% agree with. I see Roblox as a site for creativity. There is more to this site than just building (the examples you mentioned). I also understand that you want to be individual from the fan clubs, airlines, etc. |
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| 22 Apr 2014 09:52 PM |
The problem with this update is that it's trying to mix the fan clubs, ex. Paintball! Fans, and clans like VAK, and then put them into a leaderboard that will make no sense.
How is Paintball! Fans, better than VAK, if they have never spent a day raiding, defending, building a base, etc., but still have a lot higher score than VAK?
So then, people will join Paintball! Fans, because it has a higher score, all because they are on a different part of Roblox that gains them easy points.
Looking at this from a developer's view, they're just adding more mechanics (Features) to play with, but we see it on the opposite end, the effects, and since they have to peek over and see what happens, they won't see the effect until they sample all variables, and with an MMO like Roblox, that simply isn't possible.
We're not mad that they were thinking of this update, We're mad because of the effect it would create. It would be a fine feature if it actually separated fan clubs and war clans as well, instead of mixing it all together. |
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98Greener
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| 22 Apr 2014 09:53 PM |
Did you not read "Invite Only"? Clans are invite only, and you as a Clan owner can let the skillfull people in.
When it comes to lower numbers, that's when points come in. The more you have, the higher you go on the Leaderboard. People see you, and they want to join your group and play your games.
It's a competition, for fun and for glory. |
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| 22 Apr 2014 10:04 PM |
Sure, clans can do that, but what about the 8 year olds who just play Paintball all day?
They let in whoever they want, give themselves 100000 points an hour, BOOM, "THIS CLAN IS BETTER THAN VAK BECAUSE IT HAS MORE POINTS!!!!!"
We never get any favorable updates, anyway, and now we finally get an update, and it's hurts us. |
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| 22 Apr 2014 10:08 PM |
Just because we limit who gets in or not doesn't mean everyone is.
A system that can be exploited WILL be exploited, either now, or later, unless prevented. |
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98Greener
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| 22 Apr 2014 10:08 PM |
Then overcome them.
Overcome the thousands of players, you can get a million.
Make your group large and powerful. Skills with numbers can be a dangerous combination.
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| 22 Apr 2014 10:10 PM |
And how would we do that? Use the same things they do, Get millions of points a day?
Then the system is no longer based on skill. It's based on who can cheat the most. |
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98Greener
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| 22 Apr 2014 10:16 PM |
Then you build a skillful group, one at a time. It'll take longer, but it's worth it.
You assemble bigger teams of skilled players. |
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