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Re: Pros and Cons to United States & Canada

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dans59 is not online. dans59
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14 Apr 2014 04:18 PM
I'll try to be unbiased as possible, as I am Canadian.

Keep in mind, I was really trying to think for both sides and not trying to be biased.

If you have any objections, feel free to let me know with out insults would be appreciated. Thank you.

USA Pros:
- higher level of entrepreneurship. If you have the guts, and the skills, you can get really rich in the USA.
- easy access to markets
- better weather (Usually)
- higher population allows more specialization
- net energy importer (relies on overseas sources for petroleum)

USA Con:
- bigger gap between rich and poor. While you might become very rich, you probably will be fairly poor
- much higher violent crime rates, and higher crime overall
- health care is a business, designed to make money, not help people
- generally poor international image

Canada Pros:
- much more caring society. Universal health care (free health care) means longer, healthier lives, a lover infant mortality rate, and so on.
- very high international image
- much lower crime rate, especially violent crime
- (currently) a much more stable economy
- net energy producer
- self sufficient in most products
- official multiculturalism

Canada Cons:
- weather makes living in some areas of the country difficult
- higher taxes
- bilingualism requirements
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dans59 is not online. dans59
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14 Apr 2014 04:20 PM
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ChicagoPoliceOfficer is not online. ChicagoPoliceOfficer
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14 Apr 2014 04:32 PM
There both allies.
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dans59 is not online. dans59
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14 Apr 2014 04:38 PM
I know, that is why I excluded the militia, and "what if there was a war".
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NavyPanther is not online. NavyPanther
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14 Apr 2014 05:12 PM
Please, bumps are annoying and unnecessary as it is, don't do more than one.

I personally believe the international images are entirely subjective.

Also, if you wanted to get specific within healthcare, Canadian healthcare usually comes with waiting periods, sometimes lengthy, as compare to the US healthcare.

Another thing to add, you mentioned Canada has a more stable economy, you may want to look into the relationship between the two economies. Having Canada's economy being dependent on the US leaves them both in relatively similar states.

The bilingualism may seem like a con to some, yet I wouldn't consider it as big as a con as others. Just, meh. What's the harm in learning, you know?
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dans59 is not online. dans59
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14 Apr 2014 07:50 PM
Navy, Americans are more dependent on Canadians for oil, as Canada is United States #1 seller of oil.

We do not rely on the US economy that much, Americans do, because more Canadians go to the US and spend their money, rather than here because in the US it is a bit cheaper to get clothing, but they're really stupid because when they come back, they refuel on gas, which makes no difference.
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BerserkTurtles is not online. BerserkTurtles
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14 Apr 2014 07:58 PM
canada imported 300 billion USD in US products and services
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NavyPanther is not online. NavyPanther
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14 Apr 2014 08:32 PM
Oil isn't enough to offset, dude.

Canada's economy is still dependent on the US. Pretty much the case for most countries, ergo the world economy.
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dans59 is not online. dans59
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14 Apr 2014 09:39 PM
@Bes

Yes, we BOUGHT the goods, the goods are just items, not money, we helped the US economy.

We're not much dependent on the US because US travelers, and US generally don't spend that much in Canada as they do in their own country.
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NavyPanther is not online. NavyPanther
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14 Apr 2014 09:49 PM
You seem to not grasp the entire concept of economics...
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Sasook is not online. Sasook
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14 Apr 2014 11:12 PM
you do know that canadas entire economy is dependent on the US right? if you think otherwise you're really stupid. canada doesnt have a manufacturing sector so no you're not self sufficient

also you shouldnt be talking about how canada doesnt need us while our ships and planes are protecting your coasts and airspace

scum
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dans59 is not online. dans59
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14 Apr 2014 11:36 PM
lol

we came to Afghanistan when the US were crying for help.

And Yes, Canada is United States largest export goods, but keep in mind, Canada is benefiting along with the US. If Canada stooped buying goods from US, the US economy would be hurt, and vice-vera.
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WiFiKing42 is not online. WiFiKing42
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14 Apr 2014 11:43 PM
Canadian Cons:
>The bacon is not really bacon

John Marston up my butt
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IronMaiden1337 is not online. IronMaiden1337
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15 Apr 2014 01:16 AM
>bigger gap between the rich and the poor

My favorite band, Leftover Crack did a song called "Burn them prisons" and it said "capitalism creates such a division between the rich and the poor
that this surplus population is created
and "government" solution has been their containment for increasing petty offenses..." This pretty much explains this. My mom would be pissed if she knew my role model was an anarchist and had a band named Leftover Crack. Lol.
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15 Apr 2014 07:32 AM
"also you shouldnt be talking about how canada doesnt need us while our ships and planes are protecting your coasts and airspace"

Explain please with modern-day examples, currently I know of no examples of this unless you are talking about over 70 years ago.

(For the airplanes, if you are referring to NORAD, which is a JOINT agreement between the two countries to protect NORTH AMERICAN airspace, meaning if required Canadian fighters will enter American airspace and vise-versa. Not like Canadians do nothing to defend the North American airspace like we agreed to.

If you didn't know it was a CANADIAN at first that scrambled the jets after the events of the 9th of September 2001.)
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15 Apr 2014 08:44 AM
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15 Apr 2014 02:52 PM
lol

we came to Afghanistan when the US were crying for help.

And Yes, Canada is United States largest export goods, but keep in mind, Canada is benefiting along with the US. If Canada stooped buying goods from US, the US economy would be hurt, and vice-vera.
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the us could destroy the canadian agriculture market if it wanted

the us wouldnt need to import canadian oil sand oil if we used our oil shale deposits

the us didnt come crying to canada, are you an idiot
the us could destroy canada with both hands tied behind its back
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TheMyrco is not online. TheMyrco
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15 Apr 2014 02:56 PM
- better weather (Usually)

Not necessarily an advantage

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Add to Canada's pros that it is bigger than the US.

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- weather makes living in some areas of the country difficult

Melt da iceeeeeee (jk)

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- bilingualism requirements
This is not a disadvantagem, but an advantage.

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BerserkTurtles is not online. BerserkTurtles
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15 Apr 2014 03:00 PM
canada has barely any arable land themycro

you need a good environment to grow crops and raise animals or have a town
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TheMyrco is not online. TheMyrco
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15 Apr 2014 03:04 PM
I said land, not arable land. Later on it can be cleared and actually be prepared for use.

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BerserkTurtles is not online. BerserkTurtles
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15 Apr 2014 03:07 PM
the us is the world's agriculture juggernaut

when canada can start growing crops in permafrost then maybe they could catch up
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TheMyrco is not online. TheMyrco
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15 Apr 2014 03:08 PM
Of course they can, well, not necessarily out in the open, but you can still make buildings that can recreate good circumstances for crops to grow! :)

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BerserkTurtles is not online. BerserkTurtles
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15 Apr 2014 03:11 PM
how is that going to be affordable
how are the buildings going to be constructed in the >>tundra<<
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NavyPanther is not online. NavyPanther
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15 Apr 2014 04:44 PM
"Add to Canada's pros that it is bigger than the US."

Non-arable land isn't an advantage.

In all reality, the US is larger in terms of land being useful.
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