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Re: We need to ban all kinds of meat, including pork

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mrbobbilly is not online. mrbobbilly
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05 Mar 2014 05:50 PM
So if y'all are Muslim or Islamic, you know exactly what I'm talking about. We need to ban meat because
1) Making meat food can make certain species go endangered or in extreme cases, extinct
2) Islamic, Muslims and other religion will think eating animals is a sin against Heaven, so if they see you eat any type of meat, they might kill you because you're eating animal. That was true if you saw the news lately
3)If we keep on killing cows for making beef jerky and keep on doing that for at least a hundred and fifty years, cows may go endangered, and they'll keep on doing that 'till they're all wiped out of Earth
5) People serve meat as raw in some occasions, making the meat have a ton of bacteria and germs in the meat, such as living worms inside, which is true
and 6) Some people serve meat as "fresh meat" a.k.a. uncooked, and you can actually die from that due to many diseases inside that uncooked meat
All I'm saying is, we need to ban all types of meat, we can die from them. They have no proteins in it, meat is also one of the leading causes of obesity in the world. We need to eat vegetables, it is a lot healthier, and much more abundant in the world.
I mean look at the animals in the slaughterhouse like cows, horses, lambs, they were born just to be killed for food, they only live once and for a very short period of time. They are killed alive, they have to suffer a lot of pain while we just kill them and in extreme occasions, video tape them and get arrested for it to show the cruelty and laughter of the animals dying. We live much longer than them, and the people in the slaughterhouse usually laughs at them being killed because they got a lot of stress to take out and they take it out on the animals. This is called animal cruelty guys, we need to ban meat. The animals we killed were born for no real purpose, only just to be eaten by us. It's called karma. They have feelings you know, unlike the people that take their stress out in the slaughterhouse. We gotta ban meat!
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mrbobbilly is not online. mrbobbilly
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05 Mar 2014 05:52 PM
Especially pigs. We call cops pigs because pigs from the farm are made for pork, cops are fat, pigs are fat too, which is why we call all cops pigs. It's cruelty, what has this world come to? Animals were born for no purpose if we just eat and eat and eat and eat and eat, eat until we all are obesed.
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noswad0208 is not online. noswad0208
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05 Mar 2014 05:53 PM
no

meat is an important part of nearly all nation's people's diets
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BeastSwordFighter is not online. BeastSwordFighter
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05 Mar 2014 05:56 PM
I'm surprised Muslims can even carry guns if they never eat meat, they must fall over or something I guess..

Because they get no protein

Send trades JJ is NFT
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mrbobbilly is not online. mrbobbilly
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05 Mar 2014 05:56 PM
Not to mention if you're only eating meat, you're hurting yourself a lot because you're not getting your daily proteins from vegetables. You're only making yourself gaining weight in a short amount of time especially if you are lazy and sit back on the couch and reply to this thread saying how vegetable is bad. I am not making no sarcasm in this thread, this is serious. Meat is hurting our health, we need to eat vegetables. I am not Muslim, I'm Buddhist, and I do eat meat, but I eat mostly vegetables. I eat artificial meat such as the fake fish ball on the stick. The porks, the beef jerkys, the hamburgers you guys eat are naturally, all naturally from real animals. Especially sausages, it's not right. It's cruelty, if you don't believe me, look at the video of slaughterhouses animals have to go through. That's how your burgers are made you eat everyday. Everyday, millions of animals have to go through these tragic situations. It's very sad.
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lizclairborne is not online. lizclairborne
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05 Mar 2014 05:59 PM
Support.

Not just because I'm a Muslim.
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mrbobbilly is not online. mrbobbilly
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05 Mar 2014 06:02 PM
Eating only meat, example, sausages, burgers, egg muffins which are the eggs are from chicken babies, those are taken from mother chickens and they have to go to cruel situations, not only are you killing the animals for meat, you're hurting your health too. Everyday millions of Americans are hurting their health a lot because they eat only meat. Especially you guys, you eat meat only, never vegetables. That's not healthy, you're decreasing your life expectancy by being overweight. It's not good to only eat meat. The only meat I eat is artificial meat and that's a lot better than eating real meat. This is no joke, you guys don't even know that you're hurting your health a lot by eating ham, eggs, cheese, to shorten that up, meat. It's bad. It's a sin towards Muslims even though I'm not Muslim. I'm Buddhist dude, you kill millions of animals a day for food without thinking of them having feelings or letting them go. Billions of animals dead in a year, what happens if we all were animals, humans, and we are food for bulls?
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mrbobbilly is not online. mrbobbilly
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05 Mar 2014 06:05 PM
At least Mcdonalds make artificial Mcnugget that are super tasty and delicious. They don't kill chickens to make their nuggets unlike Mr. Burger or Burger King. Their burgers are artificial meat too. Why can't we all make artificial foods, that will save millions of animal lives.
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goldminer453 is not online. goldminer453
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05 Mar 2014 06:09 PM
Right When you Said I Knew this was a Troll Thread.
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goldminer453 is not online. goldminer453
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05 Mar 2014 06:13 PM
And Most Artificial Foods Have chemicals that are harmful to your Health

-I Eat Pork Duck Crocodile Beef Crab Lobster Etc.-
I Love Meat.
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noswad0208 is not online. noswad0208
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05 Mar 2014 06:15 PM
Then just don't eat meat, and don't bother those who do.

It's win-win.
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mrbobbilly is not online. mrbobbilly
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05 Mar 2014 06:15 PM
This is not a sarcasm you idiot. Do you even know how much real meat affects your health? A LOT! Not only it makes you gain weight man, it decreases your mobility and life expectancy if you eat them regularly. Do some research on how much meat affects your health.
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mrbobbilly is not online. mrbobbilly
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05 Mar 2014 06:18 PM
Did you even think for a second of the animals that are made into meat? No you did not. You did not read all my post. So you're saying the animals were born just to be eaten for food? Animals have feelings, it's not like they were born into this world in farms, be delivered to a slaughterhouse and be tortured and laughed at to be made into food. You know that have feelings? No you do not, you just laugh at them by watching slaughterhouse videos. You know that horse video that got shot in the video? You think he deserved that to be meat? That was pure cruelty to that horse, he was brought to this world for no apparent purpose just to be wasted and not be made into meat because they messed up executing him.
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mrbobbilly is not online. mrbobbilly
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05 Mar 2014 06:24 PM
Have you known the reason why Blue Whales are extremely endangered is because people have hunt them for their thick skins and how large they are. People nowadays are cruel to animals including pets. I saw videos of a woman who stomped her cat with her high heels, a cat being microwaved, I even saw a cook who was preparing dog meat in Vietnam. Don't say this is fake, because you haven't even seen the video. Go look at the video, it's pure cruelty. I bet you guys will say they deserved it because they are meant for meat and stuff like that. Go ahead, say that this is a troll thread, it's NOT. You guys never even think of the animals you eat everyday and the animals you see being abused in the news of what they have to go through every day.
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goldminer453 is not online. goldminer453
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05 Mar 2014 06:26 PM
Vietnam Eats Cat's And Dogs Yes They Do However People are Cracking Down on the Restraunts who Serve it. And Im against Animal abuse I Just Try and Gain Weight.
For My Age Im Extremely Skinny.
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mrbobbilly is not online. mrbobbilly
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05 Mar 2014 06:32 PM
I respect your opinion, I am against meat and animal cruelty. But what made me mad is that you said this was a troll thread. I am against everything that has to do with meat.
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goldminer453 is not online. goldminer453
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05 Mar 2014 06:34 PM
But why?


In The Bible They Ate Meat.
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anothersinii is not online. anothersinii
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05 Mar 2014 06:49 PM
1) We mostly make meat out of animals that are definitely not going extinct, such as cows and chicken. Besides, there is such thing as overpopulation in the animal kingdom, and sometimes the overpopulation would be responsible for making other species get endangered and extinct.
2) Shouldn't be forced to follow others' religions if we don't believe in them. We have a freedom of religion.
3) Cows aren't going extinct for a long time, and we're the reason why they're so populated. It's because we're the ones actually breeding them. What, did you think we took wild cows and just kill them?
4) You skipped point 4.
5) It doesn't have to be served raw, maybe you should make regulations on that instead of banning it all. There should be health regulation laws when it comes to food served in public.
6) See above.

"we can die from them."
Um, we can die from anything. We can die from air, from water, from cheesies, from ladybugs, from grass, from the Sun; anything can be the cause of death. But anyway, if you're so concerned about that, why wouldn't you want to ban cigerattes first? Or elcohol?

"They have no proteins in it,"
sigh.

"meat is also one of the leading causes of obesity in the world."
I was obese once, and let me tell you, there are only three causes of obesity. Gluttony, laziness, and physical disability. NOT ANY KIND OF FOOD IS THE CAUSE OF OBESITY. Ever.

"and much more abundant in the world."
Plants can go extinct too, yknow.

"they were born just to be killed for food,"
They got to experience life because of us. They are freeloading off of us. That would actually be very nice if your death was quick and painless. Besides, the animals we usually eat are non-self-aware. Cows, chicken, pigs, et cetera cannot get depressed or get any sort of other prolonged emotional feeling.

"they only live once and for a very short period of time."
Umm... you do know that they have a different sense of chronoception than us, right... you ever heard that seven dog years is a human year? Well, that's not too far off from the truth. Their sense of the passage of time is much faster than ours because their chronoception frequency rate (well that's not the name of it, I forgot the actual name) is more frequent; has more hertz. So yeah, it can be said that that one year ACTUALLY DOES feel like seven years to a dog. Not only that, but sometimes living long isn't too good. You get old and fragile and eventually you get exhausted from life itself.

"They are killed alive, they have to suffer a lot of pain while we just kill them and in extreme occasions, video tape them and get arrested for it to show the cruelty and laughter of the animals dying"
Deaths can be quick and painless for one thing. Secondly, did you know that embarrassment is a unique emotion to humans? Other animals can't be embarrassed, it requires a higher level of intelligence, and also they had to have evolved to be a social species in which communication is important. Really, a chicken doesn't care if you see it scream and flap around. It wouldn't even care if another chicken saw it do that.

"The animals we killed were born for no real purpose, only just to be eaten by us."
Nothing is born with a purpose. Nothing. Not even you. There is no objective purpose in life.

"They have feelings you know,"
They do have nociception, though different than ours, I don't really know how it would feel for them to be physically attacked. They can be put under stress, but due to their low levels of intelligence and memory, they cannot have prolonged emotions. Like I said, they cannot be depressed, they cannot have an existential crisis, they cannot have grudges, et cetera. Well, some animals can have those, but they would need to be self-aware first. I'm pretty sure we don't eat elephants, magpies, and bonobos.

"unlike the people that take their stress out in the slaughterhouse."
Actually, those people have real feelings, whether you like it or not.

"Especially pigs. We call cops pigs because pigs from the farm are made for pork, cops are fat, pigs are fat too, which is why we call all cops pigs."
Sorry, what?

"Animals were born for no purpose if we just eat and eat and eat and eat and eat, eat until we all are obesed."
There is no objective purpose in life itself, but we've given them our own purposes. We're a higher power than other species, thus we can breed them and decide on their purpose in life. Animals born in the wild literally have no purpose, whereas we are giving meaning to farm animals' lives. Food is pretty important to people, it's a requirement, so they are serving us and fulfilling their purpose in life. You see, it's quite like religion, isn't it? Your god(s), a higher power, made you to fulfill a purpose, and that purpose is to serve your god(s). Also, again, obesity is not food's fault. It's the person's fault. It is 100% the person's fault.
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goldminer453 is not online. goldminer453
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05 Mar 2014 06:52 PM
I Wish I Gained Weight.
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anothersinii is not online. anothersinii
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05 Mar 2014 06:53 PM
Oh it's really easy to gain weight. Just eat a lot of food.
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goldminer453 is not online. goldminer453
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05 Mar 2014 06:54 PM
I Don't Eat Much I Look Like I'm Starving.
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anothersinii is not online. anothersinii
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05 Mar 2014 06:55 PM
It's not hard to eat a lot, believe me. It's easy to eat a lot and it's easy to eat a little.
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dayzdagah is not online. dayzdagah
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05 Mar 2014 07:00 PM
@Mr.Bobbilly

Hey I am a Muslim and I know eating meat is not a sin against heaven so where do you get your information from because what you said made your self look dumb no offense but just saying so no flame war's because I don't like responding to dumb stuff like that.
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dayzdagah is not online. dayzdagah
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05 Mar 2014 07:03 PM
You said you got your info from news, don't believe anything you hear kiddo because some people hate Muslim's although it is the most biggest religion after Christianity. Fox news hate's Muslim, so yeah. (Still no flame wars please!)
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MetaLuigi24 is not online. MetaLuigi24
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05 Mar 2014 07:07 PM
Man has been eating meat ever since we existed. In fact, our ancestors have eaten meat. Many species across the world eat meat. You know, species can endanger each other as well. You need to accept that meat is a natural part of our lifestyle. It has been providing our bodies with delicious protein and minerals. Meat was the source of energy for our caveman relatives. Meat IS the source of energy for our bodies right now.

Besides, there are many consequences if you ban meat. First of all, the meat industry will crumble, resulting in the loss of millions of jobs and careers. People package, sell, and buy meat for a living. Second, if you ban meat, you will increase crime. Many people crave meat in their diets, especially Mongolians. There will be protests all across the world, and the black market will begin to accept meat as a form of illegal trade. Meat will be smuggled like weed.
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