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Re: Copied Uniforms

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Vulturite is not online. Vulturite
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13 Apr 2014 02:59 PM
Not sure why everyone cares so much. Crak doesn't use them, and as a clothing artist should be happy people like them enough to copy and use them. Insulting him over a game is accomplishing nothing but online bullying, so everyone just chill out.
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Vulturite is not online. Vulturite
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13 Apr 2014 03:00 PM
Basically, it doesn't affect any of us. So we shouldn't care. Let them work it out.
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Zach1102 is not online. Zach1102
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13 Apr 2014 03:00 PM
If crak had a problem, crak should have PM'd me instead of making a thread over it..
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NewbControl114 is not online. NewbControl114
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13 Apr 2014 03:01 PM
Someone profiting off of another person's work is a violation of intellectual property and warranting of angry voices.
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Vulturite is not online. Vulturite
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13 Apr 2014 03:01 PM
Yeah, and not start WWII on the forums.
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NeoEclipse is not online. NeoEclipse
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13 Apr 2014 03:02 PM
lets keep in mind this is a virtual lego game

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Crakkitty is not online. Crakkitty
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13 Apr 2014 03:02 PM
"Someone profiting off of another person's work is a violation of intellectual property and warranting of angry voices."

thank you.

see, it's not really about the uniforms, but i don't enjoy being passive and standing on the sidelines while someone profits off my work, no matter how tiny it is.

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Vulturite is not online. Vulturite
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13 Apr 2014 03:02 PM
@Newb

It's not real money even being made, and there's no copyright licensing on the work. As far as the real world is concerned, the uniforms don't even exist nor matter. If we're going to go into profiting off other people's work, look at all the groups based off another game.
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Vulturite is not online. Vulturite
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13 Apr 2014 03:03 PM
@Crak

Then make him give you a certain percentage instead of making C&G bandwagon.
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Crakkitty is not online. Crakkitty
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13 Apr 2014 03:04 PM
i'm not sure you understand the point, vulturite.

it's about the principle of stealing and the value of creating ones' own work.
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Vulturite is not online. Vulturite
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13 Apr 2014 03:06 PM
I understand. It's happened to me before with a Crimsonwrath outfit I made. Instead of bickering, perhaps make him a new uniform and make him pay for it. This way he gets uniforms, you get money and recognition.
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Crakkitty is not online. Crakkitty
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13 Apr 2014 03:08 PM
see i appreciate you trying to compromise, and i admit that it wasn't the wisest of decisions to have it blow up as it is, but allow me to get to the core if it:

i really dislike zach because of his attitude he brings to C&G. call me as you will, but i really don't condone anything he does, and in attempting to make a group with that uniform that i specifically made for a person whom at the time i was very close to, it's sorta just urks me.

that's all. the subject has seemed to die down anyway.
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NewbControl114 is not online. NewbControl114
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13 Apr 2014 03:09 PM
"It's not real money even being made, and there's no copyright licensing on the work. As far as the real world is concerned, the uniforms don't even exist nor matter. If we're going to go into profiting off other people's work, look at all the groups based off another game."

""there's no copyright licensing on the work.""

DIRECTLY FROM THE ROBLOX TERMS OF SERVICE:

"Intellectual Property Policy
ROBLOX respects the intellectual property rights of others and we ask our users to do the same. ROBLOX complies with all applicable provisions of the Digital Millennium Copyright Act. If you believe your copyrighted material and/or any of your other intellectual property has been copied on our Site, please notify ROBLOX’s copyright agent...

ROBLOX's Copyright Agent can be reached at copyright_agent@roblox.com or P.O. Box 1265, San Mateo, CA 94401."

"As far as the real world is concerned, the uniforms don't even exist nor matter."

Actually, that's wrong. Digital art is EXACTLY where the intellectual product property laws are strictest.

"If we're going to go into profiting off other people's work, look at all the groups based off another game."

Taking an item and changing massively and adding your own ideas and skills with it is permitted because you are TAKING AN IDEA and MODIFYING it.

Directly COPYING material from one person is AGAINST THE LAW and is PROSECUTABLE.
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Vulturite is not online. Vulturite
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13 Apr 2014 03:10 PM
Thanks Newb, I learned something new today. ROBLOX actually has a copyright on people's work, that's cool. No need to use caps and get mad about it brother.
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Crakkitty is not online. Crakkitty
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13 Apr 2014 03:11 PM
newb wasn't getting mad, the intent of the capitalization was to provide emphasis.
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NewbControl114 is not online. NewbControl114
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13 Apr 2014 03:11 PM
You're all "oh its okay to steal people's work" which is wrong. Of course I'm mad, this whole situation is stupid. Being a friend to Crak, of course I'm going to defend him.
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Vulturite is not online. Vulturite
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13 Apr 2014 03:12 PM
I see Crak, it has sentimental meaning to you. However you chose to blow it up on C&G because you dislike Zach. If it was some randomer, you would have just PM'd him would you not? Anyways, try to compromise with him as you will. I just wanted to calm people down about it. Sorry for him copying your work, just resolve it in a good manner.
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Crakkitty is not online. Crakkitty
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13 Apr 2014 03:12 PM
aww, newb, you're a good friend.

see people, friendship. it can happen.
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Arcarius is not online. Arcarius
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13 Apr 2014 03:13 PM
i can't tell if this is a bad troll or you're genuinely stupid


stealing is stealing
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Nitrocell is not online. Nitrocell
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13 Apr 2014 03:13 PM
you idiot that is for companies outside of roblox, no one really cares if you copy a uniform
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Vulturite is not online. Vulturite
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13 Apr 2014 03:13 PM
It's not ok, I was just saying we shouldn't get involved as it's an issue Zach and Crak should work out on their own. I appreciate you telling me that information though. Also, isn't Crak a she?
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Vulturite is not online. Vulturite
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13 Apr 2014 03:14 PM
Arcarius, I'm trying to use logic to calm people down about it. I know stealing is bad, just it's not our problem at the current moment. Thanks for putting your thoughts on the discussion by trying to insult me, it's appreciated.
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NewbControl114 is not online. NewbControl114
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13 Apr 2014 03:15 PM
@nitro

It's your personal work submitted to the site. Anything that is your work is your intellectual property.

"ROBLOX respects the intellectual property rights of others and we ask our users to do the same."

Since ROBLOX asks its users to respect intellectual property, it actually DOES matter when you copy a uniform.
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Vulturite is not online. Vulturite
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13 Apr 2014 03:17 PM
This is good to know, now I can actually provide some form of incentive for those few silly people who try to steal my things. Thanks again Newb.
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Zach1102 is not online. Zach1102
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13 Apr 2014 03:18 PM
Vulture tries to explain to everyone that we need to stop arguing, yet everyone still is whining.
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