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Re: What would war in space be like?

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ManBloxian is not online. ManBloxian
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12 Apr 2014 03:09 PM
What would it be like if countries were able to fight wars in space?
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evilkiller108 is not online. evilkiller108
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12 Apr 2014 03:09 PM
It wouldn't work out too well.
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Riducule is not online. Riducule
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12 Apr 2014 03:44 PM
one word.

starwars.

Fascist of RG
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2013Yay is not online. 2013Yay
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12 Apr 2014 04:52 PM
This already happens in the orbit, the Soviet Union checked the orbit for satelites armed with nuclear bombs.
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evilkiller108 is not online. evilkiller108
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13 Apr 2014 09:28 PM
Since firing a gun in space will propel you backwards, there would probably need to be some safety measures so no one ends up stranded on Mars.
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LordVladimirPutin is not online. LordVladimirPutin
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13 Apr 2014 10:08 PM
It would be boring because there is no sound in space
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ManBloxian is not online. ManBloxian
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13 Apr 2014 10:28 PM
And you can't change your travel speed in space
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zachzach74 is not online. zachzach74
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13 Apr 2014 10:55 PM
Wouldn't that just be more like 2 ships in the ocean at a set speed shooting cannons at each other except you can't hear the cannons?
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PokemonLight is not online. PokemonLight
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13 Apr 2014 10:57 PM
Except the ships can move up, down, and any direction
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jplynn is not online. jplynn
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13 Apr 2014 11:06 PM
Imagine yourself flying into space deprived of oxygen. The last sight you see before measureless agony is the ship you were on being obliterated.


And if you're some soldier astronaut being propelled at the enemy cruiser to board it: What if you miss?...


Think about that. :)
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14 Apr 2014 12:00 AM
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2013Yay is not online. 2013Yay
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14 Apr 2014 04:53 AM
Hmm...

I think it would be a very long ranged fight, because the rockets or space ships keep moving in a high speed, if they crash then the fight is definitely over.
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14 Apr 2014 06:28 AM
WHY ARE WE EVEN TALKING ABOUT THIS?

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ManBloxian is not online. ManBloxian
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18 Apr 2014 09:35 PM
Bump
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ArchitectOfEden is not online. ArchitectOfEden
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18 Apr 2014 10:10 PM
It would not be manned. Too expensive, it will sbe controlled from the ground.

It will also be over in mere minutes, if not, seconds. The missiles use extremely accurate gyroscopes and tracking equipment, they do not miss basically.

And you cannot dodge the shot because even if you get out of the way the pressure from a blast is multiplied due to vaccuum, meaning dodging simply isnt an option, especially with sensitive equipment on board.

In addition, there will be nobody there to see it.
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18 Apr 2014 10:27 PM
whoever shoots first wins. space-faring vehicles are very lightweight because launches are expensive. itd just be ground-controlled satellites shooting missiles at one another. it would take a few minutes simply because it takes quite a while for an object to execute the maneuvers needed to change orbits. the satellites would likely be thousands of kilometers away from each other and perhaps on opposite sides of the planet.
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18 Apr 2014 10:33 PM
*fires gun*
*bullet flies off*



༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ GIVE PENGUINS ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ
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TermoBloxer is not online. TermoBloxer
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19 Apr 2014 12:35 AM
This is from a reddit post. Not mine.

There would usually be extremely long distances between the combatants. Space is huge, and getting close to the enemy would take a lot of effort for little reason.
There would probably be an optimum range of distances between combatants. For example, if they were too far away, they'd be nearly impossible to hit. Say that you had an energy weapon that fired at the speed of light, and say that it's focused enough to be useful at millions of kilometers. If your target is one AU away, then your weapon will take eight minutes to impact after you fire it. If the enemy ship was moving in a predictable manner, you would definitely hit it. But knowing that, what ships would ever move in a perfectly predictable way? If they were capable of it, they would constantly be moving about, making it impossible to line up an extreme distance shot.
There's another problem with the battle if the ships are too close. If you're using lasers in a battle where the combatants are within a few miles of each other, then pointing your weapon at the other ship ensures a hit. They can't "see it coming," and they can't dodge. You'll hit every single shot you take, as long as your tracking their ship. But they will hit every shot they take, too.
There's a medium range, though, where light-speed weapons would take a few seconds to impact. The combatants would still not be able to "see" the attacks coming. Indeed, they wouldn't even know exactly where the enemy currently was (and more importantly, where the enemy will be in a few seconds). But they could try and predict those things. The ship that scored the most hits would be the one which had the best predictive ability, as well as the best ability to confound the predictions of the enemy. It would basically be a fight between targeting computers.
Of course, if one of the ships has a significantly more powerful weapon, or significantly stronger armor, then that would be a huge advantage. At that point, closing in to close range would be viable. Sure, every attack you make will hit me, but so will mine, and my attacks will destroy you long before yours can hurt me.
Smart missiles would also be used a great deal, probably. Especially for longer range attacks. Say that you spy an enemy several AU away, orbiting a moon. They're using an evasive pattern that you haven't cracked, so directed energy weapons are useless. So you launch a missile. The missile takes far longer to arrive than your lasers would, but once it's there, it can adjust its flight and attempt to impact. The missile would likely be as close to stealthed as you could make it, emitting heat only from its rear, so the target wouldn't notice it as it was coming in. Of course, those adjustments to course and speed that it would need to successfully impact would be noticable--if the enemy was observant enough, and looking in the right places.
All of this is assuming that humans are actually aboard the ships, however. Constant evasive manuevering at accelerations that humans can easily withstand would be effective against long range threats, but medium range combat would be very stressful to anyone inside the ship. If the ships had no humans, and were basically big engines with guns, then combat could take place at shorter ranges. Two enemy drones attacking each other with lasers would be able to change directions and velocity at extremes that would kill any human. At that point, a big factor would be delta V, or the rate of acceleration. The drone that could change directions and speeds faster would have a huge advantage.
Assuming a lack of very good AI, though, pure drone battle would be somewhat unlikely. I might send a drone into a warzone, but when any commands I send take minutes or hours to arrive, and it takes the same amount of time for me to see the result of those commands, then I'm not really "controlling" the drone at all.
I could see a combination of those things. Human-commanded ships that launch small drones which are capable of much more advanced combat maneuvering than the ships themselves. Of course, the ships would also have their own weapons, both laser and missile-based. Or perhaps battle groups of differeing kinds of ships. Different combat situations would call for different types of weaponry; it's not a one-size-fits-all deal.
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stealthyninja588 is not online. stealthyninja588
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19 Apr 2014 01:04 AM
Here is a very simple description:
Boom!
Pshew!
Zap!
Whoosh!
Mayday mayday I'm going down, ejecting now!
*Ejects off into space*
Oh noes, I'm falling, falling, falling...falling...falling...still falling...sigh.

Fire da megalas0r at enemy planet!
Pshew!
Kaboom.
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evilkiller108 is not online. evilkiller108
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19 Apr 2014 01:11 AM
I thought you meant war in space between COUNTRIES, not Earthlings and Martians.
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stealthyninja588 is not online. stealthyninja588
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19 Apr 2014 01:12 AM
Mars would be under soviet russian control :P
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evilkiller108 is not online. evilkiller108
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19 Apr 2014 01:13 AM
If Russia can control an extra-terrestrial planet and a large country on Earth, it's guaranteed they'll surpass the USA as the dominant superpower of the world.
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Sasook is not online. Sasook
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19 Apr 2014 01:26 AM
If Russia can control an extra-terrestrial planet and a large country on Earth, it's guaranteed they'll surpass the USA as the dominant superpower of the world.
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How?
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evilkiller108 is not online. evilkiller108
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19 Apr 2014 02:07 AM
For one thing, USA is barely making contact with Mars. And Russia gets a milestone that big.
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evilkiller108 is not online. evilkiller108
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19 Apr 2014 02:08 AM
Wait, I just told you... -.-
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