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Re: "Germans started the WWII, it's all German's fault"

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dans59 is not online. dans59
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10 Apr 2014 03:14 PM
Many people say that Germans ultimately started it.

And no I'm not German, so I'll make these statements unbiased as possible.
I'm not saying it's not true, I am saying that countries like Itally and a few others wanted to expand their land
because they thought they didn't get a "fair treaty" at the Paris Confrence after WWI when they signed the Treaty of Versailles.

And yes Germany was blamed for the cause of WWI with harsh punishments so they wanted to regain the lands they thought belonged to them, but you have to see the fact that many other countries wanted to expand their land too in the months leading up to WWII!
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10 Apr 2014 03:15 PM
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mageofpower is not online. mageofpower
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10 Apr 2014 03:16 PM
Indeed. But Germany is the one who attacked Poland over Danzing. Ergo, Germany started WWII. Your logic is flawed and makes no sense.
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mathisawsome is not online. mathisawsome
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10 Apr 2014 03:16 PM
British and French did it.
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dans59 is not online. dans59
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10 Apr 2014 03:17 PM
@mango,

No I'm trying to say that WWII would've happended with or with out Germany as many other countries wanted to expand their land, you see?
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mathisawsome is not online. mathisawsome
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10 Apr 2014 03:18 PM
Britain and France did a treaty for Poland that if Germany invades, they declare war.




They should of kept their @$$es out of Germany's business.
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mageofpower is not online. mageofpower
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10 Apr 2014 03:21 PM
No I'm trying to say that WWII would've happended with or with out Germany as many other countries wanted to expand their land, you see?

Expect Germany was the one that started it in the end. Saying "oh well Italy have started the war if Germany hadn't." Is silly."

And the name's Mage.
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BerserkTurtles is not online. BerserkTurtles
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10 Apr 2014 03:21 PM
it was france's fault for pushing for an unfair treaty that would hurt the german economy
and then the german economic depression allowed the NP to come to power

france lost in a couple days

this is why france sucks
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mathisawsome is not online. mathisawsome
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10 Apr 2014 03:22 PM
Italy?




Nah. Italy was more of a puppet to Germany.
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dans59 is not online. dans59
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10 Apr 2014 03:24 PM
@Mage, sorry about me getting your name wrong, didn't read properly, lol.
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mageofpower is not online. mageofpower
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10 Apr 2014 03:24 PM
Nah. Italy was more of a puppet to Germany.

Italy was the example OP made. And besides, Mussolini was an ambitious fellow.
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10 Apr 2014 04:41 PM
"And yes Germany was blamed for the cause of WWI with harsh punishments so they wanted to regain the lands they thought belonged to them, but you have to see the fact that many other countries wanted to expand their land too in the months leading up to WWII!"

Germany never caused WWI you buffoon. It was Austria-Hungary.
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dans59 is not online. dans59
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10 Apr 2014 04:48 PM
@desire

I said "Germany was BLAMED for WWI"
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flatline115 is not online. flatline115
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10 Apr 2014 04:50 PM
Germany never caused WWI you buffoon. It was Austria-Hungary.
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DesiredShark is not online. DesiredShark
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10 Apr 2014 04:58 PM
'I said "Germany was BLAMED for WWI"'

That is still saying they caused it.

@flatline115

Yes. And Bosnia too.
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ManBloxian is not online. ManBloxian
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10 Apr 2014 05:05 PM
I thought WW2 started with Japan attacking China
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flatline115 is not online. flatline115
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10 Apr 2014 05:24 PM
I thought WW2 started with Japan attacking China
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No. That was just a war
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10 Apr 2014 05:26 PM
the treaty of versailles wasnt very fair, but that doesnt change the fact that germany, in effect, did start wwii.
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10 Apr 2014 06:16 PM
"the treaty of versailles wasnt very fair, but that doesnt change the fact that germany, in effect, did start wwii."






Germany did not start World War 2. Britain and France did.
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10 Apr 2014 06:42 PM
@math
So invading poland is something the British and French should have let the germans do? They signed a treaty to help protect a nation. There is nothing wrong with that.
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dans59 is not online. dans59
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10 Apr 2014 06:53 PM
@Desire,

You do realize that after WWI they were BLAMED for the cause of WWI as in everyone pointed their fingers at Germany and said "Yoy did, you did it! Now you will pay" That's basically what the world said to Germany.

Being blamed and actually doing somthing are two different things.
You should know this by now, lol...
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dans59 is not online. dans59
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10 Apr 2014 06:57 PM
@Math

No, Britain and France were standing down even when Hit___ was invading all these countries, but unfortunately, France and Britain standing down only made Hit___ bolder, and when he attacked Poland is when Britain and France stepped in.
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mathisawsome is not online. mathisawsome
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10 Apr 2014 07:16 PM
Britain had no business with Poland and Germany. Neither did France.





So...
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dans59 is not online. dans59
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10 Apr 2014 07:27 PM
Math,

It was violation of the Treaty that Germany signed, and did you know 12 million+ Je___ died under Hit___ control? He belived that Ar..yans were the "master race" and slaughtered 12Million Je___ most in concentration camps).

Britain, France, and many other countries helped these countries get their land back.
And than Hit__ took over France, and France was a very close ally of Britain.

So no, Britain and France did not start the war.
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dans59 is not online. dans59
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10 Apr 2014 07:27 PM
12+Million Jews*
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