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Re: [PETITION/SUGGESTION] VAK-RAT Bases

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Dimste is not online. Dimste
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08 Apr 2014 06:47 PM
Hey all, so I've recently hit genius as to the 'fairness' of C2 and SMO. VAK complain about C2 because it's pay2win, but other than that the layout of the base is fair. RAT complain about SMO because - well let's face it, VAK has one of the most one-sided fortresses on this game, and it should be blown to smithereens.

Nevertheless, I've struck a solution to this.

Revert back to the original Celeste, and old SMO (one from early 2012 at least, without ATACs)

Why is this?

The bases of C1 and SMO were pretty similar, both were on a square map with nothing below, barely any cover, etc etc. Both bases were nearly identical, which is why RAT v VAK 1 was so very close and had to had a final battle. Now, I am not saying that we'd have to have a final battle again, VAK have clearly strengthened themselves since 2011, and RAT just started to strengthen itself as well.

Now, I talked to one of my friends who is a Vaktovian officer. He says VAK should head forward, not backwards. I can understand his view - but what if it was just the layout that was copied? You can take the original SMO and the original C2, have some of your architects work on it and build an advanced replica. This should *NOT* take long to make though, I should mention this now than later. The only thing that really needs be edited for old SMO is moving the group door for VAK near the gate, and putting the hole in the wall on the raider's side (the spawn where raiders frequently spawn at)

ADVANTAGES TO THIS:

- Most likely no complaints about either base, bases are MUCH more fair than the current versions

- (This is a prediction) Raids will be more fun and easy, and the war will be kept active, like the RAA v TGI war (until RAA couldn't deal with TGI's BS), where they raided and countered, raided and countered, and raided and countered.

- Possible chance of veterans from both sides to rejoin, or in RAT's case, continue to rejoin. People like feeling nostalgic, it's one of the best feelings in the universe.

DISADVANTAGES:

- ..Can't think of any, unless VAK don't want to resort to a fun, active, complaint-free war, with fair bases.

Support please. :D!

- Cyrus Thane
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Vauce is not online. Vauce
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08 Apr 2014 06:49 PM
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Rectifying is not online. Rectifying
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08 Apr 2014 06:51 PM
spprt
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thea96 is not online. thea96
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08 Apr 2014 06:53 PM
inb4 support due to nostalgia
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sdght34 is not online. sdght34
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08 Apr 2014 06:54 PM
c3 and smo 2.0
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Candiigal is not online. Candiigal
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08 Apr 2014 06:54 PM
fancy idea there
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SlayerJones is not online. SlayerJones
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08 Apr 2014 06:55 PM
celeste is hardly pay2win

the cyclone is a decent weapon, lancers are pretty powerful and are only 100 robux
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Antagonise is not online. Antagonise
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08 Apr 2014 07:07 PM
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Skyman772 is not online. Skyman772
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08 Apr 2014 07:10 PM
>"most likely no complaints"

yeah no, asking a clanner not to complain is like asking a dog not to it's business on a fire hydrant.

nonetheless, i like your concepts but i honestly think that realistically this war will be a competition of who can make their fort most OP. that is suggesting that TPHG will do to C2 what Vaktus does to SMO when the inevitable updates come into place, atleast i hope for RAT's sake that he does.

otherwise, support.
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Vexax is not online. Vexax
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08 Apr 2014 07:11 PM
Great idea, support.
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Dimste is not online. Dimste
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08 Apr 2014 07:41 PM
> "yeah no, asking a clanner not to complain is like asking a dog not to it's business on a fire hydrant.

"this war will be a competition of who can make their fort most OP. that is suggesting that TPHG will do to C2 what Vaktus does to SMO when the inevitable updates come into place, atleast i hope for RAT's sake that he does."

When the war officially begins, there will be no updates to be made to either side.

- Cyrus Thane
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Vauce is not online. Vauce
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08 Apr 2014 07:42 PM
more support
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UntoTheBreach is not online. UntoTheBreach
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08 Apr 2014 07:43 PM
"original Celeste,"

YES.
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TheBuildermanGuest is not online. TheBuildermanGuest
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08 Apr 2014 07:47 PM
support
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flythepegasus is not online. flythepegasus
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08 Apr 2014 07:48 PM
LOL.

nice dimste
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LordVledak is not online. LordVledak
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08 Apr 2014 07:50 PM
support

That means old guns 2 rite?
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08 Apr 2014 07:51 PM
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RV117 is not online. RV117
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08 Apr 2014 07:52 PM
I like how no one seems to realize that VAK only updated their base after TGI complained about it- then TGI continued by complaining that VAK updated their base...

But you know it doesn't really matter, a slaughter is a slaughter.

☠ \M/ ☠
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Dimste is not online. Dimste
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08 Apr 2014 08:29 PM
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- Cyrus Thane
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SkilledUnit is not online. SkilledUnit
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08 Apr 2014 08:33 PM
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Vadara is not online. Vadara
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08 Apr 2014 08:34 PM
Support.
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Dimste is not online. Dimste
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08 Apr 2014 09:42 PM
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Ratiowise is not online. Ratiowise
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08 Apr 2014 09:45 PM
support
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ImSpongiFoo is not online. ImSpongiFoo
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08 Apr 2014 09:45 PM
i disagree if the things that were bought were removed.
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HaHaHaFail is not online. HaHaHaFail
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08 Apr 2014 09:47 PM
I still dont get why everyone acts like SMO is on top of the list of unfairness

Trust me, we even have practice raids on ourselves and the raiders win about the same as defenses.

Every Vaktovian Is Lemons
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