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| 06 Apr 2014 08:43 AM |
| Since humans first evolved their natural instinct was to stay and work together or. This is called primitive communism and it was the first stage of society |
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| 06 Apr 2014 08:49 AM |
| We never said it did, so shhhh. |
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| 06 Apr 2014 08:50 AM |
| I would love to see all those people on Roblox who say that Communism is good in an actual Communist state. |
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| 06 Apr 2014 08:54 AM |
| The Paris Commune is an example of an actual communist society but not Soviet Union or China |
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| 06 Apr 2014 08:54 AM |
| Yes, but that's for small tribes of humans, not an entire nation! |
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deltav
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| 06 Apr 2014 08:55 AM |
| It only works in small groups. |
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| 06 Apr 2014 09:01 AM |
| There can't be one nation that's communist because there needs to be a global revolution |
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| 06 Apr 2014 09:36 AM |
| There isn't a global revolution because it's a crap idea that bankrupted the Soviets and even China is running from it these days. It's not like North Korea's become a wonderful country. |
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| 06 Apr 2014 09:42 AM |
| No because they started practicing "Socialism in One Country". which is the opposite of what was supposed to happen for communism to take place |
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stix619
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| 06 Apr 2014 09:44 AM |
Communism is where everything is shared, and everyone is the same as everyone else.
You gave no evidence that these 'natural instincts' had these humans sharing, and that there was no leader over them.
If you don't have evidence, then this is basically the same as Soviet Communism or North Korean Communism. |
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| 06 Apr 2014 09:50 AM |
OK look at a tribe in south america or Papua new guinea
There's my evidence |
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stix619
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| 06 Apr 2014 09:52 AM |
I'm sitting in America. No picture would show me that.
*facepalm* |
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Midmyst
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| 06 Apr 2014 09:59 AM |
One of the largest South American empires, the Inca Empire, is sometimes thought of as being communist.
Source: htt p://stillwo ods.blogspot.c om/2011/10/comm unism-of-incas.html
However, there are some features of the Inca Empire (such as the centralized monarchy and class system) that distinguish it from later states that attempted communism.
It doesn't seem like it was very communist to me, personally. Mostly due to the class system and hierarchy. Or were you talking about smaller tribes?
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| 06 Apr 2014 10:44 AM |
| I was talking about smaller tribes like the Carib and Taino |
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Midmyst
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| 06 Apr 2014 10:53 AM |
Couldn't find much about the Carib, but as for the Taino:
"The Taíno are thought to have been matrilineal, tracing their ancestry through the female line. The Taíno of Hispaniola were politically organized at the time of contact into at least five hereditary chiefdoms called cacicazgos. Each casicazgo had a clearly recognized territory, a system of regional chiefs (caciques) and sub-chiefs, and a paramount ruler. At least two distinct social categories were recognized by the Taíno as subordinate to the caciques. According to the Spanish chronicles, the nitaínos were equated with nobles, and appear to have assisted the caciques in the organization of labor and trade. Behiques, or shamans, were part of the nitaíno group. The remainder of the population- equated by the Spaniards with commoners -were known as naborías. It is estimated that the cacicazgos each incorporated between seventy and a hundred communities, some of which had many hundreds of residents."
The Taino people had a class hierarchy, and a chief-based government. I think that disqualifies them from being communist, at least in the strict sense of the word.
ht tps://ww w.flmnh.ufl.e du/histarch/ebs _taino_society.htm
From what I read, the Taino had small (presumably private) plots of land on which they raised crops, as a supplement to fishing. They did have trade. However, it was vague. Could you tell me a bit more about the economy of the Taino and how collectivist it was? |
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| 06 Apr 2014 11:37 AM |
| Well human nature has never been the best nature... |
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