Zukaro
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| 19 Jul 2013 05:29 PM |
Roblox should implement a payment method for those who make their games pay to play. It would be nice to get some actual money for building a game on Roblox (one which players are willing to pay Robux for). Real money is a much better incentive for developers to make a game, and I think that if Roblox is actually going to enable this system (my suggestion for how it works comes in a moment) it would attract people with far more building/scripting experience. And due to that, would improve the overall quality of the games; better games in general will attract more and more players as well as the possibility of making a bit of money off their game.
Since games cost Robux rather than tickets, in order for someone to actually be able to afford to play said game they likely either need to buy Robux or get BC. Most NBC members will be unable to afford games unless they buy Robux (there will be one or two able to afford it but not many), and because of this, having better pay to play games gives NBC players more incentive to buy BC (right now it's really just hats, places, and groups which attract them).
One Robux is worth approximately one cent. When going by the prices on the buy Robux page each Robux is worth $0.012375 (at the $4.95 mark). When purchased with BC that same one becomes worth $0.011 per Robux (it's dollar value is worth less because you get more for the same price).
With the cheapest BC you get 450 Robux every 30 days and pay $5.95/month. That means each Robux is worth about $0.01322 as a basic BC member. I haven't tried calculating this for the higher versions of BC however.
So lets say you make a place and charge 50 Robux to play it. You'll earn $0.62. However, Roblox takes 30% from BC members and 90% from NBC members, so in actuality you'll be getting $0.43 as a BC member and only $0.06 as an NBC member.
On the flip side, this means Roblox profits $0.19 from BC and $0.56 from NBC members on that particular game (in the instance that the Robux were obtained via BC or buying them from the buy Robux page).
I think this would be a mutually beneficial move as the developers would have far more incentive to create great games (and this would attract more developers as well), and due to this, would help Roblox profit more. |
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Zukaro
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| 19 Jul 2013 06:59 PM |
| I'm pretty sure stuff using real money isn't allowed... |
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Zukaro
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| 20 Jul 2013 06:54 AM |
"I'm pretty sure stuff using real money isn't allowed..."
What do you mean? Roblox takes real money for BC and to buy Robux with. My suggestion does not involve people paying actual money however, but Roblox paying actual money.
The reason that would work is because the only people who can really afford paid access games are those who've either bought BC or bought Robux.
If you mean Roblox isn't allowed to pay real money, they are. They may not be allowed to pay money to people under a certain age, but they can ask for your age. If people lie about their age that's irrelevant as Roblox is protected from those laws under those circumstances.
For example, if I post copyrighted content on YouTube no one can go and sue YouTube for that content. They can sue me, but not YouTube as YouTube is protected under those circumstances. The same would apply to Roblox with the age thing, and if it's really that big of a concern Roblox could ask for a valid ID. |
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| 20 Jul 2013 07:42 AM |
| And so begins the slippery slope where you have to pay to even use Roblox.. |
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| 20 Jul 2013 07:45 AM |
No. ROBLOX would die if false thumbnail games began to get money from ROBLOX. Try about 750 supper popular P.T.P games, getting access paid out constantly, Yeah, ROBLOX would go broke. ~11076 |
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| 20 Jul 2013 07:49 AM |
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Danny1600
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| 20 Jul 2013 07:57 AM |
| Why can't you just wait to get money like the other people do? BC get Robux everyday. NBC can trade curency if they wait everyday. This isn't a good idea in my opinion. |
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Zukaro
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| 20 Jul 2013 08:56 AM |
"And so begins the slippery slope where you have to pay to even use Roblox.." ------------ That already happened when Roblox introduced paid access games. I'm just suggesting a way to make paid access games worth my time.
------------ "No. ROBLOX would die if false thumbnail games began to get money from ROBLOX. Try about 750 supper popular P.T.P games, getting access paid out constantly, Yeah, ROBLOX would go broke. ~11076" ------------ Roblox said that with their paid access thing they're going to be removing any games that are reported as scams and refunding the Robux. Also, as long as people are buying BC/Robux to be able to afford to play these games Roblox isn't going to start losing money, if anything they'll make more.
------------ "Why can't you just wait to get money like the other people do? BC get Robux everyday. NBC can trade curency if they wait everyday. This isn't a good idea in my opinion." ------------ NBC members get 300 tix a month if they login every day, which means every month they get 27 Robux. If every game costs 50+ Robux it'll take them 2 months of saving to get one 50 Robux game. Whereas BC members get about 450 Robux a month (basic BC members).
People are more likely to just buy BC or Robux if they wanna play a game they have to pay to play. I'm just suggesting Roblox actually make it worthwhile for members to make their games pay to play.
------------ tl;dr ------------ Then don't respond. |
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| 20 Jul 2013 09:19 AM |
So essentially you wan't roblox to give out REAL money to us? Not gonna happen. |
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Zukaro
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| 20 Jul 2013 10:05 AM |
"So essentially you wan't roblox to give out REAL money to us? Not gonna happen." --------
My suggestion is that Roblox gives real money to people who make their games paid access. The money would be given based on how many people buy access to the game. It's only a few cents that Roblox would be giving (one Robux is worth approximately one cent and Roblox takes 30% away from BC members and 90% away from NBC members).
I doubt Roblox will implement this but I don't see this as hurting them. YouTube does the same thing essentially (they share the ad revenue with the content creators) so I think Roblox should do the same if they're going to implement paid access. Otherwise I see paid access as completely useless and self serving; if they at least took this suggestion paid access wouldn't be as bad imo. |
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Zukaro
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| 20 Jul 2013 11:03 AM |
| I think the way it is, is better than this idea. Sorry, I don't support. |
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| 20 Jul 2013 11:05 AM |
I can give the idea of roblox paying its users to advertise roblox in certain ways a support, but this...
Paid access, the REAL problem with paid access, is its current lack of equilibrium; If you make a paid access game, you are going to lose sales drastically. This is in part to how low you can make a paid access game (25R$.) and also in part to how much people hate paid access. The equilibrium of paid access to non-paid access will come eventually, but this could throw it off. |
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Zukaro
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| 20 Jul 2013 11:34 AM |
"I think the way it is, is better than this idea. Sorry, I don't support." -------
The way I'm suggesting only changes it for the developer. It gives them some money, it doesn't make the user spend anymore money than they'd have spent buying Robux or BC (or if the user saved up his/her Robux they spend no real money).
------- "I can give the idea of roblox paying its users to advertise roblox in certain ways a support, but this...
Paid access, the REAL problem with paid access, is its current lack of equilibrium; If you make a paid access game, you are going to lose sales drastically. This is in part to how low you can make a paid access game (25R$.) and also in part to how much people hate paid access. The equilibrium of paid access to non-paid access will come eventually, but this could throw it off." -------
Roblox used to have the Ambassador program. The problem with that, was that Roblox users would spam links to Roblox on every site they could so they'd get their Robux from the program (it didn't give real money however).
I know Paid Access has a ton of issues, and personally I'm against it. However, if it were to actually pay people real money I wouldn't be as against it (I'd still have issue with it but it'd be a bit better). |
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| 20 Jul 2013 12:04 PM |
If they paid people to make paid access games, there would be a lot more paid access games.
There's other ways of doing it. |
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Zukaro
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| 20 Jul 2013 12:08 PM |
"If they paid people to make paid access games, there would be a lot more paid access games.
There's other ways of doing it." -------
That's the point. What other reason would Roblox pay it's players? |
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| 20 Jul 2013 12:10 PM |
If there's more paid access games, People would hate paid access games more. Let's not give them an incentive to rage more. That throws off the equilibrium paid access needs. If anything, just making paid access more flexible would be a better idea. |
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NDboy
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| 20 Jul 2013 12:16 PM |
Roblox wont give us real money they will go out of business in 1 day
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Zukaro
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| 21 Jul 2013 12:09 PM |
"If there's more paid access games, People would hate paid access games more. Let's not give them an incentive to rage more. That throws off the equilibrium paid access needs. If anything, just making paid access more flexible would be a better idea." ----------
I think that in the end, even if Roblox gives real money to the developers, there will be very few paid access games that are actually successful. And as a result most of those games will go free to play again.
Paid access does need to be more flexible as well however (the ability to charge tix rather than Robux or less than 25 Robux is something that's required).
---------- "Roblox wont give us real money they will go out of business in 1 day" ----------
I doubt Roblox will give real money but they wont go out of business because of it. The way my suggestion works Roblox is still profiting. |
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Donutlova
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| 21 Jul 2013 03:13 PM |
Dumb idea
Roblox will never pay us
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Zukaro
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| 21 Jul 2013 03:28 PM |
"Dumb idea
Roblox will never pay us"
I don't see how it's dumb. YouTube pays it's content creators, why can't Roblox do the same now that they've implemented paid access? |
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Donutlova
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| 21 Jul 2013 03:32 PM |
Because most youtubers are over 18...
DUH |
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