67thave
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| 02 Apr 2014 06:07 PM |
With punishment, one almost always gets more bitter to those who punished them. This makes them more likely to commit another crime.
With rehabilitation, one learns how to overcome their problems, or channel their interests into a more beneficial method for society, making them less likely to do bad. |
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| 02 Apr 2014 06:08 PM |
Agreed. People shouldn't be arrested for narcotics, but rather treated for them.
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| 02 Apr 2014 06:09 PM |
people should just execute the person who committed the crime
you don't need to waste valuable resources and you can focus your efforts on more important things |
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mycheeze
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| 02 Apr 2014 06:09 PM |
One problem is you are potentially releasing people who refuse to comply to the standard of life.
Thus allowing for people to get out of jail by simply 'pretending' to be good. |
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| 02 Apr 2014 06:10 PM |
@Above
So people should be murdered over a speeding ticket? Okay then. You'll make a lovely politician, you authoritarian scumbag.
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150565
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| 02 Apr 2014 06:10 PM |
>people should just execute the person who committed the crime
"An Eye for an Eye Will Make the Whole World Blind" |
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NeptuneOG
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| 02 Apr 2014 06:10 PM |
| non violent offenders shouldn't be treated the same way killers are too |
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| 02 Apr 2014 06:12 PM |
there should be no second chances
and ghandi's method of doing things peacefully still got people killed |
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| 02 Apr 2014 06:13 PM |
@chee
I wonder if you'll be thinking the same thing if you get arrested on some BS charges. I don't know about your country, but here in MURICA we have a policy of "innocent until proven guilty."
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150565
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| 02 Apr 2014 06:13 PM |
>there should be no second chances
Some people get framed. no TONS of people get framed |
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| 02 Apr 2014 06:15 PM |
"I wonder if you'll be thinking the same thing if you get arrested on some BS charges. I don't know about your country, but here in MURICA we have a policy of "innocent until proven guilty."
i never said anything killing random people, idiot
i'm saying, once someone gets convicted or something, down to hell they should go (or whatever the afterlife is, i don't know) |
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| 02 Apr 2014 06:18 PM |
| Half of the m**derers out there are either sociopaths or people who have nothing to lose |
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| 02 Apr 2014 06:19 PM |
@chee
When did I say anything about you wanting to kill random people? Reading comprehension is a valuable thing, son. I pity you, you'll be the kind of guy loading people into the cattle cars.
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| 02 Apr 2014 06:19 PM |
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*53x crimes
That was awkward.
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| 02 Apr 2014 06:21 PM |
"I pity you, you'll be the kind of guy loading people into the cattle cars."
no need to pity me
i'm not the filthy, hippie anarchist here |
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| 02 Apr 2014 06:22 PM |
| I can't really back terrorists and r@p!sts getting allowed back to public, but the problem with our current prison system is that rehabilitation barely happens. People who get convicted for selling a plant or stealing their dad's car end up in prison for months, get "hardened" up, then just go back to doing crime when they get free. |
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blobbem
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| 02 Apr 2014 06:23 PM |
'No matter how mentally ill the criminal is, no matter how damaged their childhood was--there is absolutely NO EXCUSE for murder... Such individuals do not deserve to be rehabilitated, even if they were born in their state. They deserve retribution.'
I agreed with your post, apart from this excerpt. I believe some people can change and those who are mentally ill or suffered a terrible childhood or other trauma shouldn't be killed because they couldn't control their actions.
Life in prison seems more fitting, or an asylum if needed. |
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| 02 Apr 2014 06:24 PM |
@Blobbem
Murder is still murder. Most of the people that do it are fully aware of the situation. |
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blobbem
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| 02 Apr 2014 06:26 PM |
'Murder is still murder. Most of the people that do it are fully aware of the situation.'
And because of the majority who are aware of their actions, those who aren't should be punished along with them?
Nah. That doesn't sit right with me. |
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| 02 Apr 2014 06:26 PM |
@chee
And I'm not the authoritarian sociopathic scumbag who has no problem with killing people who have been convicted of petty crimes. There's a difference between a person addicted to narcotics and a murderer. The irony within this is you acting as though I'm the threat. I'm about as peace loving as it gets, buddy. But if you or anyone else dare threaten my life, limb, or property; I will resist you to my last breath.
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| 02 Apr 2014 06:30 PM |
@Blobbem
The only way I could really back it is if they had DID, severe bipolarity, or weren't aware of what they were doing.
If it's just that they had a hard childhood, I don't find it excusable because they're taking it out on innocents rather than harming their abusers in some way or getting therapy. |
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| 02 Apr 2014 06:33 PM |
"And I'm not the authoritarian sociopathic scumbag who has no problem with killing people who have been convicted of petty crimes. There's a difference between a person addicted to narcotics and a murderer. The irony within this is you acting as though I'm the threat."
why do people bite the hand that feeds them?
because there's no punishment for it
simply throwing a man in jail won't stop him from getting out and committing crimes again
you must remove him from existence so he may not make the same mistake twice
"I'm about as peace loving as it gets, buddy. But if you or anyone else dare threaten my life, limb, or property; I will resist you to my last breath.""
and, please...
you sound like one of those stereotypical americans teenagers who thinks he knows his shiz |
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| 02 Apr 2014 06:33 PM |
"Life in prison seems more fitting, or an asylum if needed."
Oh, I think you misunderstood me. I was talking about life in prison, not capital punishment. I only support capital punishment in the case of serial killers/gr4pists, not first-timers. The point is that people who commit those kind of crimes are not deserving of compassion. Being born a killer or a gr4pist is no less atrocious than choosing to be one.
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blobbem
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| 02 Apr 2014 06:34 PM |
'If it's just that they had a hard childhood, I don't find it excusable because they're taking it out on innocents rather than harming their abusers in some way or getting therapy.'
They probably don't hurt their abusers because they're scared of them, which is understandable.
Also, some people can't afford therapy or find it difficult to cope with.
The innocents who were killed were unfortunate to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.
As you can tell, I am not a fan of the death penalty. I don't believe it is for justice, but more for revenge. And that isn't what the law stands for. |
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