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Re: Possible solution for clothes copying

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deltav is not online. deltav
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02 Apr 2014 09:16 AM
Basically, an semi-automated system that compares clothes and checks whether or not clothes have been copied. Sorta.
Each time a template for shirts or pants is uploaded, the system goes through the database of existing shirts/pants. Each template has a 'signature', which is generated based on the colours of the pixels in the template. Or something.
If the system finds a template that matches closely (and is not made by the same person), it will automatically send a report to a moderator. The moderator will then decide whether or not the clothes were copied.

What do you think? What needs to be added?
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flythepegasus is not online. flythepegasus
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02 Apr 2014 09:16 AM
possibly

or remove the ability to find the template by subtracting 1 to the ID
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deltav is not online. deltav
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02 Apr 2014 09:19 AM
That's possible too, but hey. Maybe there is a reason why they haven't done that yet so perhaps they want an alternative.
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flythepegasus is not online. flythepegasus
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02 Apr 2014 09:21 AM
yeah i thought that too, that maybe the template was like that so it can be made into a shirt

no idea why they don't just make it instead of being ID'd at 1 less of the original id they just make it a random ID.

it'd be harder to guess it.
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MrPhelps is not online. MrPhelps
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02 Apr 2014 09:41 AM
The thing with subtracting 1 from the ID is there for a reason. They have to keep the template for the shirt to be recognized.

For example, when putting a shirt on a humanoid model in Roblox studio. You must use the ID - 1 for the model to recognize the shirt.





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deltav is not online. deltav
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02 Apr 2014 09:53 AM
That I guess.
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trogyssy is not online. trogyssy
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02 Apr 2014 09:54 AM
Unfortunately, it's nearly impossible to do that. Templates are almost always changed a little bit with the resizing before uploading the copy.

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deltav is not online. deltav
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02 Apr 2014 10:10 AM
Are they all changed in the same way? Because if that's the case then it shouldn't be a problem.
Here's hoping a mod posts.
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trogyssy is not online. trogyssy
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02 Apr 2014 10:11 AM
No.

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deltav is not online. deltav
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02 Apr 2014 10:13 AM
Ah, sod.
It might be possible to fix that though.
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dawsonnlego is not online. dawsonnlego
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02 Apr 2014 10:24 AM
I believe that they will not fix it, they want the players to fix it themselves.

How many admins have done stuff for us? They want the community to fix something for a change.
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deltav is not online. deltav
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02 Apr 2014 10:27 AM
"How many admins have done stuff for us? They want the community to fix something for a change."
It's their job though. They get paid for doing things. This is a thing. If they do it they get money.
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powertool is not online. powertool
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02 Apr 2014 12:42 PM
The subtract 1 trick actually doesn't give you a working shirt template, there are white bars top and bottom ~8px wide. Doesn't stop anyone from retemplating and reuploading.
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whyaname98 is not online. whyaname98
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02 Apr 2014 12:44 PM
Roblox isn't that advanced, they can't even create a proper searching system.

#LogicMakesSense
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powertool is not online. powertool
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02 Apr 2014 12:52 PM
Or more likely no one cares to search for anything. So they see no need to fix it.
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whyaname98 is not online. whyaname98
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02 Apr 2014 12:53 PM
Many people use it.....

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trogyssy is not online. trogyssy
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02 Apr 2014 04:10 PM
There are even groups that let anyone make clothes in, therefore giving NBCers the opportunity to get any clothes they want for free.

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nachosandchez is not online. nachosandchez
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02 Apr 2014 04:25 PM
Total support.

Piracy is a big enough problem in ROBLOX
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ILikeTrainzSir is not online. ILikeTrainzSir
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02 Apr 2014 04:29 PM
support but impossibru
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deltav is not online. deltav
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03 Apr 2014 08:07 AM
bump
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trogyssy is not online. trogyssy
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03 Apr 2014 10:03 AM
Why bump an unfeasible idea?

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deltav is not online. deltav
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03 Apr 2014 10:48 AM
Maybe it actually isn't unfeasable. I expect that the developers know what is and isn't possible. In this case, it might be possible anyway. Perhaps the way the templates are uploaded needs to be changed, but that'd make it possible and solve a rather big problem with it.
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trogyssy is not online. trogyssy
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03 Apr 2014 12:18 PM
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If it was feasible, it would be done.

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deltav is not online. deltav
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03 Apr 2014 12:20 PM
Then how is it unfeasable?
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trogyssy is not online. trogyssy
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03 Apr 2014 01:45 PM
www.roblox.com/Explanation-place?id=123093712

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