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Re: ROBLOX SCRIPTING MADE EASY

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toomad is not online. toomad
Joined: 11 May 2007
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30 Mar 2014 02:49 AM
So, I was never good at scripting on roblox. Mainly because I didn't know every single solitary command and when to put what where and why. But I'm taking a robotics class, and I noticed that while they use a similar scripting language as roblox LUA, the way you build the script is a whole lot easier to understand. I caught on in a flash. The system of which im speaking; some of you may be aware of. It's a drag and drop method. It's where you have a dialog box of every known command in roblox lua, available at your discretion. You can use it how ever you wish. The system does the actual writing the code line by line for you, and you just construct the script according to how you want your game to be. It would take a lot of time off of scripting by reducing level of confusion for newer scripters, and reducing the level of errors that come naturally with scripting.

While I understand constructing such a system may take some time, I still think the result will help encourage non scripters to want to learn, and reduce the number of headaches that go into making a game currently.
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LemmJuice is not online. LemmJuice
Joined: 23 Feb 2014
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30 Mar 2014 02:50 AM
Learn Lua maybe? It doesn't take too much time, you need to put effort in to learn it. (It took almost a month for me to learn 80% of it)
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toomad is not online. toomad
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30 Mar 2014 03:00 AM
I tried once, for a straight month I think to hunker down an learn, it didn't click for me. People learn at diffrent rates dude. Then there's level of commitment you have to compinsate for.
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xwk is not online. xwk
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30 Mar 2014 03:00 AM
I think this is a worthy thing to add. Although scripting may come easier for some people, a lot have a harder time starting off because they are brain dead with trying to memorize all of the functions and such key words.

I support this idea as long as values can be changed, and you still have the option to write out the script.

I think this would help a lot of people, through repetition.
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toomad is not online. toomad
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30 Mar 2014 03:01 AM
Truthfully,I've been trying off and on for the last 6 years and I still haven't gotten a handle.
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Digitov is not online. Digitov
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30 Mar 2014 03:12 AM
this is how i learned

>free models
>execute the script
>reads it
>execute again
>learn every single function in the script
>attempt to create a script
>if correct then
>another free model
>repeat

>if failed
>try again
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LemmJuice is not online. LemmJuice
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30 Mar 2014 03:15 AM
I kinda learned the same, but the best thing is to just not worry about remembering functions, this is how the old guys did it: "read from a reference, all you have to do is lay them out in the way you want to"

So I'd say just use the wiki as a reference, you'll soon remember them as you go.

(Being stressed makes you learn less) - true fact
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toomad is not online. toomad
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30 Mar 2014 03:16 AM
I'm not here to see diffrent ways people learned... I'm here to make scripting easier to learn for people in the future.
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Digitov is not online. Digitov
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30 Mar 2014 04:01 AM
scripting isnt easy ok --if u nevr scripted b4
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whyaname98 is not online. whyaname98
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30 Mar 2014 04:03 AM
LUA is like the easiest scripting language to learn:l

#LogicMakesSense
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Spongocardo is not online. Spongocardo
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30 Mar 2014 04:26 AM
^^ That truth though.

When life gives you lemons... BURN HIS HOUSE DOWN! >:D
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iMadeAnEpicUsername is not online. iMadeAnEpicUsername
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30 Mar 2014 04:29 AM
never tried scripting this month :0
but okay, I may try and notice the changes of learning to script.
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deltav is not online. deltav
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30 Mar 2014 04:40 AM
That is actually a very sound idea if you ask me. Seeing as ROBLOX's primary demographic consists of children, this would really help them learn.
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deltav is not online. deltav
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30 Mar 2014 04:42 AM
Tracking for future bumps.
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iBryson is not online. iBryson
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30 Mar 2014 04:43 AM
If you have trouble scripting, please follow these steps if they help you.
>get free model
>follow instructions on free model
>repeat until you get he hang out it
>go onto ROBLOX tutorials
>find how to create your own scripts
>if you still have trouble, contact a expert scripter.
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deltav is not online. deltav
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30 Mar 2014 04:44 AM
@everyone trying to recommend ways to help him script
That isn't the point though.
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LemmJuice is not online. LemmJuice
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30 Mar 2014 04:50 AM
Giving them and easy way around isn't really learning though, it's no good if they learn a scratch-based language and then want to get a job at microsoft.
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deltav is not online. deltav
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30 Mar 2014 05:02 AM
"Giving them and easy way around isn't really learning though, it's no good if they learn a scratch-based language and then want to get a job at microsoft."
They'd have to learn new things to work there anyway, it doesn't make too much of a difference.
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toomad is not online. toomad
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30 Mar 2014 06:42 AM
I think what the majority of the people here are trying to say without actually saying it is that the new method is a lazier approach. They don't want to be cheated out of precious hours spent on this game. Understandable. But think about it's benefit for a second. Users who really want to learn will still have the option to read and edit the written version of their script manually and better understand scripting. Other, less dedicated users should still be given the opportunity to script without having to spend hours trying to learn a code you've never even heard of before. This, hopefully will give people the opportunity to make higher quality games, thus giving them more of chance of being recognized in the gaming section of roblox. Many of the games on roblox have been there for quite literally, years. Don't you think it's time for a little something new?
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toomad is not online. toomad
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30 Mar 2014 07:17 AM
"Giving them and easy way around isn't really learning though, it's no good if they learn a scratch-based language and then want to get a job at microsoft."

Roblox isn't a college or career prep organization dude. Its a game that gives people a taste of what scripting is like in the real world. Keep in mind that Roblox LUA is a very basic version of scripting as a whole. With that being said, it shouldn't be like learning rocket science to some people. It should be relatively easy to understand. WITHOUT hours spent trying to understand it.
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deltav is not online. deltav
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30 Mar 2014 12:10 PM
The idea of this increasing the overall game quality makes it sound even better. It's not only easier (and more visual, which would help too, at least for me), but it'd also make better games. Not only that, it'd mean that making money on ROBLOX would be easier, which means that the Price Floor wouldn't be as much of a problem to people.
I've used the "work for your money" argument to support the price floor, but fact of the matter is that kids simply aren't that good at making games, and they are the primary demographic. To me, scripting was (and still somewhat is) very unappealing to me. It's words and words, it's like you have to go to school to learn a language. It's boring. If the interface was changed to look better, and if it was a drag-and-drop kind of system, it would probably help a lot of people get into it.
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3rdblox is not online. 3rdblox
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30 Mar 2014 12:30 PM
Yeah, no. Everything would be strewn all over the place, is that really what you want? Just learn RBLX Lua and you'll be able to find things in half a second.
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tery215 is not online. tery215
Joined: 19 Aug 2009
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30 Mar 2014 12:32 PM
No.

Don't believe that there are tonnes of commands?

You won't find any of which you need.
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deltav is not online. deltav
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30 Mar 2014 12:34 PM
"Yeah, no. Everything would be strewn all over the place, is that really what you want? Just learn RBLX Lua and you'll be able to find things in half a second."
"No. Don't believe that there are tonnes of commands? You won't find any of which you need."

Unless the interface is properly implemented.
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Spongocardo is not online. Spongocardo
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30 Mar 2014 12:34 PM
I just find this idea destroys the point of learning to script.

When life gives you lemons... BURN HIS HOUSE DOWN! >:D
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