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Re: What is the best type of socialism?

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MidmystSalt is not online. MidmystSalt
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29 Mar 2014 04:50 PM
As in, which type of socialism do you think would be best for economic growth, upholding human rights, and improving the standard of living?

I understand that "none of them" would probably be a good answer, but just try to pick the least evil out of all the socialisms.

Some types of socialism to choose from: Leninism, Trotskyism, National Socialism (does this count?), Anarchism/Anarcho-Syndicalism, market socialism, democratic socialism, Maoism, Juche, Cuevarism, Ujamaa, Arab socialism, Melanesian socialism, Venezuelan socialism, regular communism, anarcho-primitivism, anarcho-feminism, eco-socialism, and many others.

I think National Socialism would work well economically, to be honest.
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re567 is not online. re567
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29 Mar 2014 04:51 PM
Marxism-Leninism
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Voozy is not online. Voozy
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29 Mar 2014 04:57 PM
u do some
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Pakesboy is not online. Pakesboy
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29 Mar 2014 05:00 PM
natsoc or dem socialist

whats eco socialism?
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MidmystSalt is not online. MidmystSalt
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29 Mar 2014 05:02 PM
"whats eco socialism?"

eco-, a prefix mostly relating to ecological or environmental terms

socialism, a social and economic system characterised by social ownership of the means of production and co-operative management of the economy

put them together, pakes
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Pakesboy is not online. Pakesboy
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29 Mar 2014 05:04 PM
I KNOW THAT I MEAN WHAT ARE THE PRINCIPLES OF IT
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MidmystSalt is not online. MidmystSalt
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29 Mar 2014 05:07 PM
oh okay
no need to yell though

Here is a description of eco socialism from an eco socialist himself:

"Ecosocialism is a vision of a transformed society in harmony with nature, and the development of practices that can attain it. It is directed toward alternatives to all socially and ecologically destructive systems, such as patriarchy, racism, hozophobia and the fossil-fuel based economy. It is based on a perspective that regards other species and natural ecosystems as valuable in themselves and as partners in a common destiny.

Ecosocialism shares with traditional socialism a passion for justice. It shares the conviction that capitalism has been a deadly detour for humanity. We understand capitalism to be a class society based on infinite expansion, through the exploitation of labor and the ransacking of nature. Ecosocialists are also guided by the life-ways of indigenous peoples whose economies are embedded in a classless society in fundamental unity with nature. We draw upon the wisdom of the ages as well as the latest science, and will do what can be done to bring a new society, beyond capitalism, into existence."

Or in other words, "feminist commie hippies."
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GoblarkGobral is not online. GoblarkGobral
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29 Mar 2014 05:11 PM
stalinism
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Pakesboy is not online. Pakesboy
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29 Mar 2014 05:14 PM
@mid

LOL theyre probably atheist too
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MidmystSalt is not online. MidmystSalt
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29 Mar 2014 05:15 PM
To me, eco-socialism seems indifferent to religion but I don't know much about it. Marxism-Leninism and Maoism, on the other hand, would definitely be anti-religious.

There's something called Christian communism, actually. They claim Jesus would have supported a communist society.
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MetaLuigi34 is not online. MetaLuigi34
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29 Mar 2014 05:17 PM
National Socialism. Notice how good Germany's economy became when Chancellor Adolf went to office. He restored the economy and helped rebuild the German military.
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Pakesboy is not online. Pakesboy
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29 Mar 2014 05:31 PM
@Mid

Since the norm for feminist commie hippies is them being atheist, I was pointing how hypocritical it would be regarding their religious views since they wouldn't have any scientific platform other than mythology and random thoughts.
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MidmystSalt is not online. MidmystSalt
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29 Mar 2014 05:36 PM
> scientific platform other than mythology and random thoughts.

hold on i disagree
they have a robust scientific platform based on advancing the standard of living of all through such gems as:

nuclear power is bad
gmo is bad
cars is bad
global warming kills us all
animals are ppl too
evil western medicine
native american herbs are gooder than modern medicine
turn off the lgihts and stuff when youre not using them or else mother earth dies

anyway i see the point you are trying to make.
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Niiqiarqusu is not online. Niiqiarqusu
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29 Mar 2014 05:46 PM
National Socialism
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MidmystSalt is not online. MidmystSalt
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29 Mar 2014 06:18 PM
bump
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Pakesboy is not online. Pakesboy
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29 Mar 2014 06:21 PM
@mid

thats all true to me...
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Pakesboy is not online. Pakesboy
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29 Mar 2014 06:21 PM
except evil western medicine and the herbs are better (sometimes?)
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